Help me to make my system fast

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by ashish1989, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. xinso

    xinso MDL Guru

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    #21 xinso, Jul 30, 2022
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    Try lite tool for build as of 17763.1. The build from 18362.1 forward won't allow tampering.

    Or you can learn to do custom reconstruction from here:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-editions-reconstruction-project.80939/#post-1570332
     
  2. ashish1989

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  3. ashish1989

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    Any lite windows ltsc 2021 which uses very less amount of ram?
     
  4. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    What do you mean by LTSC 2021?
    And I assume you know that the official LTSC 2021 is based on Windows 10. Both conventional and IoT are possible.
    You said that you have 4GB of RAM and it is quite enough to use any Windows 10 (personally, I have also tested on such an old computer with a maximum of 2.87GB of Windows 10 Pro and it works perfectly, but it is slow).
    So, You must know what exactly you want?
     
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  5. ashish1989

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    I mean by windows enterprise ltsc 2021 which has a long term support. I am asking if there is any lite version of it which uses least amount of RAM
     
  6. kaljukass

    kaljukass MDL Guru

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    RAM usage depends on how many programs, apps and services are opened or used at the same time, not on how much any craftsman has managed to cut off pieces from the original file.
    I personally don't trust any manual version, if necessary you can always choose what starts automatically and what doesn't, and of course you can also choose how many programs or web pages etc. you have open at the same time. Also, you don't have to install a countless number of all kinds of widgets, extensions, apps and the hell knows what. Why should some unknown home craftsman decide this for you when you can make this choice yourself.
    Yes, of course, there are tons of homebrew, but I think you know that homebrew variants and versions are not shared here.
     
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  7. case-sensitive

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    The operating system isnt a racing car = The lighter it is the faster it goes . And if you cut things out how are you going to update it ?

    An SSD and linux is your best bet .
     
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  9. CaptainKirk1966

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    #29 CaptainKirk1966, Jul 30, 2022
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    Switching to SSD is the single best thing you can do, it will be more significant than changing whatever Windows 10 version you are using.

    I had an old machine with an MSI LGA775 motherboard, 4GB ram, and an Intel e8400 Core 2 Duo sitting unused under a table for several years. Intolerably slow with an old 120GB hdd running Win 10 Edu x64. Switched over to an ssd, and saw immense improvement, again running Win 10 Edu. It became usable, but not really speedy, and I used it for a few weeks before shutting it down and putting it back under the table.

    I'm not sure if your E5500 will perform as well as an E8400. Your bad ram slot still worries me. Possibly a sign of other MB defects that you are not aware of. And any money you invest in possible upgrades to this existing system would be wasted.
     
  10. case-sensitive

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    Can we have less internet esoterics please ?

    Unless someone can show comparative performance tests between an uncut system and cut systems .......... for each cut out component ...... they're talking out of their arse . Its just subjective fan boy crap .
     
  11. nosirrahx

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    That is an interesting question. I cut stuff out because I hate having to scroll by icons I will never click but it would be interesting to see if performance actually changes.

    Removing defender might actually matter but that is futile since it gets reinstalled every CU.

    I just did a 100% vanilla install of Windows 10 that I plan to replace with a modified image later so I could test this build and the cut down one.

    So what to check? CPU benchmark, RAM usage, SSD performance, idle CPU usage? All pretty easy to check. Place your bets, I don't expect much.
     
  12. case-sensitive

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    My subjective opinion

    I'm in the same position ............. so i use LTSC 2021 with the things cut out that microsoft allows us to cut out cut out . I dont notice any difference .

    The only time i notice a performance improvement is when i cut defender and its parts out ........ and windows update ........... but that means reinstalling every month so that the updates go in .

    When i cut things it also means trouble :) ....... the system keeps looking for things that arent there ......... and changeing file asociations ......... and updating / reinstalling things = The system is unstable and i spend a larg part of my month correcting things
     
  13. CaptainKirk1966

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    And numerous scripts on MDL seem intended to do just that...
     
  14. nosirrahx

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    I don't know if others have noticed but over time I have noticed that modified images seem to be more and more stable. Way back in I think 1709 I constantly had problems with modified images refusing to update. Now, everything just seems to work.
     
  15. acer-5100

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    Any windows starting from vista uses about the same RAM at the core level (about 600MB for x86, about 1GB for AMD64).

    Any additional ram is taken by surrounding services and apps.

    So, just disable defender, hyper-V, IPV6, and anything you don't really need.

    If your PC is an old one is better to use LTSB 2015 or 2016, and if you don't really need AMD64, is better to use the x86 flavor (use PAEPATCH3 if you have more than 3 GB of RAM installed).

    Basically is just like when your wage is low. You have to learn how to do shopping w/o buying any unnecessary thing, and consume any leftover instead of trashing them.
     
  16. raptorddd

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    i did my iso i left defender and edge. i dont need a benchmark i can see the speed when reinstalling and launching apps.

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    #37 ashish1989, Jul 30, 2022
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    I already have disabled defender, will disable hyper v and ip v6 too now. But what are the advantages of disabling these two features.
    Also the LTSB 2015/2016 support has ended, then what is the advantage of installing. Better use LTSC 2021
     
  18. ashish1989

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    Not a good difference, better to use original one
     
  19. Dude Guyman

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    #40 Dude Guyman, Jul 30, 2022
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    Here's Windows 10 LTSC 21H2 (2021) tweaked for performance and no-bloat as much as can be done without breaking things, from a custom ISO made with MSMG Toolkit (nothing stripped, just pre-disabled Defender, reserved storage, etc.) vs Linux (Xubuntu with Xfce desktop environment) not even tweaked, loaded with programs, running off of an external USB hard drive on the exact same PC, screenshot taken moments apart. Windows is a HOG by comparison, even tweaked.

    If you're hellbent on running Windows 10 though, I'd say just get LTSC 2021 and install it, then tweak it as much as you can from within Windows, without any crazy "lite, debloated" stuff. It's already "debloated" and pretty much as lean as you can get without breaking it. I would not use older LTSC versions, better to just go with Windows 7 in that case.

    LTSC 21H2 - RAM: 2.3 GB in use, 4GB committed. Processes = ~88-92 o_O
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    Xubuntu Linux - RAM: 525 MB...0 swap...:eek:
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    As for Defender, removing it breaks things and it just gets reinstalled, right? I just disable it via gpedit.msc or registry file for a quick-click-reboot solution:
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    "DisableAntiSpyware"=dword:00000001
    "DisableRoutinelyTakingAction"=dword:00000001
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Real-Time Protection]
    "DisableBehaviorMonitoring"=dword:00000001
    "DisableIOAVProtection"=dword:00000001
    "DisableOnAccessProtection"=dword:00000001
    "DisableRealtimeMonitoring"=dword:00000001
    "DisableRoutinelyTakingAction"=dword:00000001
    "DisableScanOnRealtimeEnable"=dword:00000001
    "DisableScriptScanning"=dword:00000001
    
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    "DisableEnhancedNotifications"=dword:00000001
    "DisableGenericRePorts"=dword:00000001
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\Scan]
    "DisableArchiveScanning"=dword:00000001
    "DisableCatchupFullScan"=dword:00000001
    "DisableCatchupQuickScan"=dword:00000001
    "DisableRemovableDriveScanning"=dword:00000001
    "DisableRestorePoint"=dword:00000001
    "DisableScanningMappedNetworkDrivesForFullScan"=dword:00000001
    "DisableScanningNetworkFiles"=dword:00000001
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows Defender\SmartScreen]
    "ConfigureAppInstallControlEnabled"=dword:00000000