This right here! I have tried MANY times to pre-remove the parts of Windows that I do not use and annoy me from the ISO with MSMG Toolkit, like Defender, System Restore, Telemetry stuff, all "apps" etc. etc., and it always results in problems, like a non-bootable install (BSOD at boot), or at the least an Event Viewer full of errors and complaints. You get all sorts of random things erroring out and breaking that you would never have even imagined. All that for ~0% actual performance gain. I just use LTSC (apps gone!) identify the most egregious system offenders, Defender, System Restore, Windows updates, and totally disable them via gpedit.msc and/or registry tweaks. If I still had any "potato PCs", I would not even put Windows 10 on them. Windows 7 if Windows programs were required, or Linux wouldn't work, and Linux for anything else. Hell, I'd go all the way back to Windows XP or 2000 If it was still feasible.
IPV6 takes additional RAM, possibly 200/300MB. Disabling hyper-V (I mean from the bootloader, not the control panel) disables also the features relying on it on recent Windows: virtualization based security (since 1511), WSL2, and so on... If you think you already have the right answer, don't ask. In that case the answer is wrong. 2015/2016 are supported 10 years, 2021 is supported 5 years, practically the support ends (almost) at the same time. IoT 2021 is supported 10 years, so in the very unlikely scenario of you using the same windows for more than 5 years, LTSC 2021 is not the answer.
Just because you like yourself doesnt mean that your right . IOT 2021 / LTSC 2021 is the same thing .
I'm an experienced technician, and I share my experience over dozens, maybe hundreds, of installations. Not to please or displease you or everyone else. What I like is not relevant. Like it or not Thanks for the discovery of the tap water. If we are discussing of "end of support" IOT or LTSC are clearly way different, an that was the case. What about trying to help the user who asked instead of showing your frustration against, people you don't like?
I forgot, I was talking about LTSC IOT Enterprise 2021, thanx for reminding And kindly provide more hacks and tweaks to make the system faster
@Dude Guyman there's quite a lot of stuff you can remove without it resulting in a broken system upon finishing installation or even starting it(for whatever reason). Code: Removed Internet Components - Adobe Flash For Windows - Edge Chromium Browser Removed Multimedia Components - First Logon Animation - Game Explorer | Needed for: Microsoft Games - Speech Recognition | Needed for: Cortana, Ease of Access - Windows TIFF IFilter (OCR) - Windows System Assessment Tool Removed Network Components - Offline Files - Open SSH - Remote Desktop Client - Remote Differential Compression (RDC) - Simple TCP/IP Services - Telnet Client - TFTP Client - Windows Mail | Needed for: Windows Mail App Removed Privacy Components - Assigned Access - Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP) - Face Recognition - Kernel Debugging | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting - Location Service - Picture Password - Pin SignIn Support - Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting - WiFi Network Manager (WiFi Sense) - Windows Error Reporting - Windows Insider Hub Removed Remoting Components - Home Group - MultiPoint Connector - OneDrive Desktop Client - Remote Assistance - Remote Desktop Server - Remote Registry - Work Folders Client Removed System Components - Device Lockdown (Embedded Experience) - Ease of Access Cursors | Depends on: Accessibility Tools - Ease of Access Themes | Depends on: Accessibility Tools - Easy Transfer - File History - Magnifier | Depends on: Accessibility Tools - Narrator | Depends on: Accessibility Tools - Projected File System (ProjFS) - Security Center | Depends on: Windows Defender - Steps Recorder - Storage Spaces - Windows Firewall - Windows Subsystem For Linux - Windows To Go Removed System Apps - Add Suggested Folders to Library Dialog - App Resolver UX - Modern Open With Dialog - Async Text Service - Messaging extensions for People and Maps Apps - Bio Enrollment - Windows Hello Setup - Calling Shell App - App to host call progress on shell - CBSPreview - App for Camera Barcode Scanner - Credential Dialog Host - Authentication (Sign -in) shell support for Windows Hello - ECApp - Modern UI Dialog App for Eye Movement Control | Depends on: WindowsMixedReality - Edge Classic Browser - Edge Developer Tools Client - An extension to edge containing tools for web developers | Depends on: Edge - File Explorer - Modern File Explorer App - File Picker - Modern File Picker Dialog - Lock App - Container App for Apps and Messages on the Lockscreen - Map Control - Narrator Quick Start - QuickStart Guide for Narrator - NcsiUwpApp - Network Connectivity Status Indicator (NCSI) - Parental Controls - App for Parental Controls - People Experience Host - People Bar (People Hub) - Pinning Confirmation Dialog - Retail Demo Content - Secure Assessment Browser - Special Windows Mode for Exams (Take Test App) - Setting Sync - Sync settings between your Windows PCs and devices - Skype ORTC - Smart Screen - Windows Defender SmartScreen Functionality for Modern Apps - Webcam Experience - Win32 Web View Host - Desktop App Web Viewer - Windows Defender App - Windows Mixed Reality - Windows Reader (PDF) | Depends on: Edge - XGpu Eject Dialog - Modern Dialog App for safe removal of external GPUs Removed Windows Apps - 3D Viewer | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality - Advertising Xaml - Alarms & Clock - Camera - Cortana | Depends on: Speech Recognition - Desktop App Installer - Feedback Hub - Get Help - Google's VP9 WebM Video Codec Plugin - Groove Music - High Efficiency Image File (HEIF) Codec Plugin - Maps | Depends on: Map Control - Microsoft Pay - Mixed Reality Portal | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality - Movies & TV App - My Office - OneNote - Paint 3D - People | Depends on: People Bar - Phone Link - Photos - Services Store Engagement | Depends on: Windows Store App - Skype - Solitaire Collection | Depends on: Xbox Live - Sticky Notes | Depends on: Services Store Engagement - Store Experience Host | Depends on: Windows Store App - Tips - Windows tips and tutorials App - Weather | Depends on: Advertising Xaml - Web Media Codec Plugin - WebP Image Codec Plugin - Windows Mail App | Depends on: Advertising Xaml, Windows Mail Applied Tweaks - Disable Automatic Download and Install of 3rd Party Apps - Disable Microsoft Reserved Storage Space for Windows Updates - Enable Windows Photo Viewer - Hide Taskbar Cortana Icon - Hide Taskbar Meet Now Icon - Hide Taskbar News and Interests - Hide Taskbar Search Bar - Hide Taskbar Task View Icon You can mostly remove everything from the first 6 categories and still have full functionality.
@ removing things The priority would be to not remove anything thats needed , keep functionality , be able to update it .......... AND it make a difference . If we remove the things that realy do use a lot of cpu / ram the system wont work reliably and wont be updateable . To test the efectiveness of removeing things we would need at least two identical systems and then remove one componant after another from one of them and test them in between .......... AND with combinations of removals ............ AND do the tests over time ........... while useing both computers in exactly the same way .
BTW that list must be used with a bit of common sense. Part of the listed items helps to reduce the needed storage, but don't affects the RAM used, often at the expense of loosing a useful functionality. Say I see little point removing OpenSSH, which practically don't use any RAM when not used, it takes small storage, but can be very handy when needed. Same for Remote desktop. To spare RAM disabling it is sufficient. Other things like Defender helps to spare both RAM and a relevant amount of storage. Things like error reporting add very little wheigt to storage, but uses some RAM when used.
Cherry-picking functional components versus resource utilization was never the intent behind making that list. It was just a "how many components can be removed and still have a functioning windows os". Also, RAM utilization will vary machine to machine, as hardware is different. But the main point is more resource gets used by actual components needed for a bit smoother experience. Like Defender, for example, whenever it starts scanning stuff you'll notice the computer taking longer to load folders or programs. Things like that. Useful/useless components should be researched by the person yanking them out to make a lighter distribution FOR HIM-/HERSELF. I really don't use windows for much, I'm fine with ripping out even the store app, but leaving in the back-end and xbox components purely for games(capture picker for screenshots too).
Sure, had no doubt on that. My reply, although I quoted your message for simplicity, was not really aimed at you, but to less experienced people who may had taken it blindly. Hence my suggestion to use some common sense using that (handy) list.
The only thing I notice is that you did not mention what you think is wrong. I also noticed that you did not ask what the system even is. Be specific and ask questions.
If I already knew what is wrong, I never ask for help here, instead I will search for solutions over internet
btw: You quoted @nosirrahx, who seemed to be addressing a claim made by @kaljukass. I personaly have no clue how the picture posted by @nosirrahx indicated any type of problem.
Yeah I am genuinely curious myself. I was pretty clear that I ripped everything out leaving enough to do offline gaming. You can install games and graphics drivers still, what else do you need for offline gaming? The other point I was testing in all of this was the earlier implication that removing stuff would not measurably improve performance, which I did confirm. The only benefits are: 1. less clutter that you will never click or interactive with 2. less RAM usage so on a low RAM system (4GB or less) you might see a performance improvement from less getting paged 3. if you have a very small SSD, you can make multiple more GB available for games
Or you can try upgrade more ram on DDR2 and LG775 Core 2 QUAD CPU that would give better speed.. DDR2 Ram, good luck to find 16GB is the Max some motherboards.. OR swap motherboard that has LGA 775 with come DDR3 memory slots. (at least 4 Slots of DDR3) will do the job... ATGPUD2003