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  1. leuy

    leuy MDL Novice

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    how do i install the Orbit30 lo*der in a acer with hidden boot partition? i have 2 hard disk one have the windows vista and the other windows 7

    thanks
     
  2. sauronxxx

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    the loader yeah... great.... there are a few but i guess you think we are mindreaders..... well let me tell you ... we are not.
     
  3. leuy

    leuy MDL Novice

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    better now? lol
     
  4. Bagheera

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    I've had the same problem yesterday... (vista and bootmgr) and win7 without the bootmgr... It gave some problems.. after a while i was getting frustrated and removed the vista (got acronis).

    Sorry for not giving the solution, but you are not alone hehehe
     
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  5. leuy

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    with acronis you can see the hidden partitions?
     
  6. EclipseSin

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    #6 EclipseSin, Jul 30, 2009
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  7. leuy

    leuy MDL Novice

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    the only problem that i cant change drive leters on "oem" partitions with disk management


    thanks for the guide :)
     
  8. EclipseSin

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    #8 EclipseSin, Jul 30, 2009
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    Which partition/drive letter is the OEM partition? Is it also where your bootmgr is?

    So what you have is this?

    Vista (Partition)
    {Hidden} (OEM Partition)
    Windows 7 (Partition)

    Is this correct?
     
  9. pilot76103

    pilot76103 MDL Member

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    Thanks for the guide. Testing it now on a Apple MacBook since nothing else works. I notice anytime the file "grldr" is installed with every loader my MacBook freezes. The one with WoW7 says "Starting Windows 98" and hangs. With your guide is this file needed or only the NeoGrub system? Any help is much appreciated. :confused:
     
  10. leuy

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    #10 leuy, Jul 30, 2009
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    with acronis i can see 4 drives C: , D: ,PQSERVICE and NTFS


    bootmgr is on PQSERVICE

    if i give letters to de partition PQSERVICE and NTFS with the acronis you think that gona have problems?

    ps sorry for my english :p
     
  11. EclipseSin

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    Only Neogrub, the menu.lst modification, and the wow7 folder as outlined. grldr is not needed. It is replaced by using NeoGrub.

    can you link me to a screenshot of Disk Management or the list of Drives in Acronis?
     
  12. pilot76103

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    I am now one step closer to figuring out my Apple MacBook issues. NeoGrub looks for "GRLDR" but anytime it is on my hard drive my boot freezes before getting to the boot screen. I have not tried having "GRLDR" on only drive D: and not drive C: which is where the bootloader is. Maybe if I move NeoGrub and "GRLDR" only to drive D: the Windows bootloader on C: won't freeze and I can make some progress! :D
     
  13. leuy

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    bootmgr is on PQSERVICE

    if i give letters to de partition PQSERVICE and NTFS with the acronis you think that gona have problems?

    ps sorry for my english :p
     
  14. EclipseSin

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    ... I just said you dont need grldr... NeoGrub replaces it. It looks like grldr cause it is Grub for dos.

    you should have the following on the same drive as bootldr. Replace C: with your boot drive letter.

    C:\NST\NeoGrub.mbr
    C:\NST\menu.lst
    C:\Neogrub (file, no extension)
    C:\wow7\install.bat (not used)
    C:\wow7\uninstall.bat (not used)
    C:\wow7\bootsect.exe
    C:\wow7\bootsectgrldr.exe
    C:\wow7\WOWfloppy_7.0.0_auto_HP.IMG
     
  15. pilot76103

    pilot76103 MDL Member

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    #15 pilot76103, Jul 30, 2009
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    DOES NOT WORK ON APPLE MACs with a GUID Partition Table (GPT)!
    This is the output on my screen after selecting NeoGrub Bootlo*der.

    Code:
    Booting GRLDR...
    Turning on gate A20... Success.
    
    Warning: Unrecognized partition table for drive 80. Please rebuild it using
    a Microsoft-compatable FDISK tool(err=4). Current C/H/S=266305/255/63
    Starting cmain() ...
    Warning: Unrecognized partition table for drive 80. Please rebuild it using
    a Microsoft-compatable FDISK tool(err=4). Current C/H/S=266305/255/63
    Then it hangs... :( :mad: :confused:
     
  16. pilot76103

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    #16 pilot76103, Jul 30, 2009
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    I followed your directions as is after I noticed myself that the "GRLDR" file was not needed. I think the issue is the Partition Table is GUID Partition Table (GPT) not MBR. Read my post above for my error message. I just hope someone will develop a GUID Partition Table (GPT) compatable lo*der or cr**k.
     
  17. EclipseSin

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    PQSERVICE? What kind of computer do you have? Do you still want your OEM Service partition?
     
  18. leuy

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    laptop acer 5920g
     
  19. EclipseSin

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    What about the other questions?
     
  20. pilot76103

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    PQSERVICE on his Acer is going to be the Power Quest Imaging software that controls factory restore of his computer.