How to force programs installation without administrator's permissions

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  1. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    #1 h1116232, Apr 27, 2012
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    Okay, here's my situation step by step:

    I have program (lets call it program "Whatever") which requires administrator permissions for installation. I can not even start the installation manager without it.
    I am pretty much sure that administrator permissions are not necessary for this installation and for the program to operate.
    But that's not the point. Even if it needs administrator permissions very badly, I would like to be the one who decides that, not the program.
    As I said, it is not even possible to start the installation process. Once I launch the setup windows immediately asks me to enter administrator's password.

    So, my question would, how to force installation (or launch) of any program on an user with limited right? (Ability to launch is also important. If there is any function in the proogram that need some access to the restricted content then this part can simply not operate and that is it, but the most important, that the program at least would try to launch itself without request of administrator permisions)


    ADDITIONAL INFO:
    Yes, I can access to the administrator, I just don't wanna do that.
    Yes, I have tried various extractors for this setup and no one recognizes it.
    The whole idea behind this is that if the legitimate program is compiled with malicious software I would be able to install the legitimate part and leave virus to cry like an 5 years old girl.
    And more simply, as I mentioned earlier, I would like to be the decisions maker, not the program.
     
  2. NICK@NUMBER11

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    Remove the Manifest from the exe file if exist, and rename it to something that doesn't contain setup/install/patch...
     
  4. redroad

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    You are the decision maker by the security profile you set for each account
     
  5. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    Thanks for answers.

    It doesn't look very safe, I don't wanna do that.


    As I said, I can't access the setup file. And the setup file is kinda the only file.


    I have already installed this program via virtual machine and then just copied installed files to the main machine and it is working perfectly on an limited user, but it is too much of trouble and I am looking for an easier way. There should be something, some registry entry or something, I do not believe that this setting is unchangeable. We all know that not all setups do that. Some setups just launch themselves on those permissions that are available for them at the moment. Which just proofs that such event is physically possible. I just wanna that all setups do that.
    And it is not about setups only. How to launch programs on limited users? Let's take specific example. One of the most annoying programs for me is FRAPS. I am using this program as FPS counter only and I know for sure that extended permissions for this function is not necessary. And yet it is not possible to launch this program without administrator permissions. At least I don't know how to do that.
     
  6. redroad

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    #6 redroad, Apr 27, 2012
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    I don't know if this will help but this will let you access permissions with 2008 server.

    Code:
    1.      Click Start, click Run, type Regedit on the Open box, and then click OK. 
    
      2.      Navigate to the following registry key: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{61738644-F196-11D0-9953-00C04FD919C1} 
      3.      Right click on the key {61738644-F196-11D0-9953-00C04FD919C1} and choose permissions 
      4.      Click Advanced button 
      5.      Change to the Owner Tab 
      6.      Change the Owner to the Administrators Group be sure to check the box labeled “Replace owner on subcontainers and objects” 
      7.      Once the Owner is changed, go back to the security tab and Grant the Administrators group Full Control 
      8.      Close Regedit 
      
     
  7. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    There is no such key in my registry, but

    could this help me to install and launch programs on an limited environment?
     
  8. redroad

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    If you find the correct registry key you can tailor the permissions for what suits your needs. What OS are you trying to do this on?
     
  9. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 64
     
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    redroad MDL Guru

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    How did you make out?
     
  12. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    No answer so far. I can not believe that it's such a difficult task, but it looks like one. I went through all group policy setting, but either I missed something or there isn't anything.
    Of course, I am thinking logically, but it doesn't mater if program makers or Windows itself forces that behavior, there should be an very easy way to turn it off. As I mentioned earlier, not all programs do that. Let's take very simple example, program "Services". You barely can do anything here without administrator rights and yet, you can launch it on Guest if you want it. So how come "FRAPS" is cooler than "Services"?
     
  13. evlad

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    I may not understand but it works best if you have multiple users with different access rights:
    squeeze the left shift and right mouse button, select run as administrator.
    implies that you know the administrator password
     
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  14. h1116232

    h1116232 MDL Novice

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    No it does work. Run as pop-up doesn't show any other users except the ones who has administrator permissions.
     
  15. SinnedGer

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    #16 SinnedGer, Apr 20, 2013
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    .

    I have a Windows 7 Home Premium System, and I took to what you just gave, but the settings stopped matching after I looked in the AppID folder and couldn't find the {61738644-F196-11D0-9953-00C04FD919C1} folder. Could you (or anyone else who might be reading this post) give me some feedback to my problem?

    P.S. My computer was manufactured in 2010.
     
  16. SinnedGer

    SinnedGer MDL Novice

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    The computer told me that I had no permission to change the permissions of the owner.o_O