How to install Windows 7 on a Dell 3847 PC without all the Dell Bloatware

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  1. Palladin

    Palladin MDL Senior Member

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  2. Skaendo

    Skaendo MDL Addicted

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    If you don't want to go through the hassle of WU after you install Windows 7 (500 times) you could apply the simplix update pack to your iso from this thread here:

    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...tem-Integrate-hotfixes-into-Win7-distribution

    It does not have every single update that you will need, and it will not fit on a standard 4.7GB DVD-R (unless you leave out IE11), but you will only need to run through the WU process once or twice to be fully updated. Not only that but by applying the simplix update pack, you will have a smaller Windows footprint on your drive. I think that currently it comes out around 15GB on Windows 7 Ultimate.
     
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  4. Palladin

    Palladin MDL Senior Member

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    Thanks, I didn't know about the Simplix Update Pack. :eek: I'll try it next time for sure.

    My final installation size after all Windows updates was a little less than 9GB. I would be interesting to compare that to the file size after the Simplix Updates.

    size-after-windows-update.jpg
     
  5. Skaendo

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    I'm guessing that that is an Acronis compressed backup image? Actual footprint of the OS might be a little bigger than that.
     
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    #7 Palladin, May 13, 2015
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    Yep, you are correct. I'll restore the image to a spare partition and report back the actual size.

    Edit: And you were dead nuts on as far as the size was concerned. :worthy:

    I restored the image to a USB 3.0 drive using Acronis, and I got an error message on start up that Acronis couldn't locate any Hard Drives. :confused:

    But if I selected browse images, it recoginized the USB 3.0 drive and I selected the image after WU, and restored it. As expected it took longer than across the system bus, but not that much longer.

    Here's the before and after.
    size-after-windows-update-revised.jpg

    I just don't get it as far as this USB 3.0 thing goes. I thought USB 3.0 was a mature technology and it was me that was behind the times. Dell has problems with it, and the new version of Acronis doesn't even recognize USB 3.0 anything.

    More on that here: http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...r-Windows-UEFI-partiton?p=1023043#post1023043

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  7. Skaendo

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    #8 Skaendo, May 13, 2015
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    I just did a fresh install with the March simplix update pack (15.3.20) and it came out to 14.9GB (before I updated) with a pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys at 5.23GB.

    So my Windows "actual" footprint is about 9.67GB.

    Just a couple of points:

    My testing rig is a 2007 Dell Inspiron 1520, Core 2 Duo, 3GB RAM.
    I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 w/Update "official" iso updated with simplix update pack.
    I don't integrate IE11 with the simplix pack.

    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=35091&d=1431490033


    About your USB 3.0 issue, I have always heard that you would need drivers from the manufacturer since there is no native support in Windows 7. I think that they started supporting them in Windows 8.
     

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  8. Palladin

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    That's pretty impressive and quite a bit smaller than what I came up with. I'm going to give this a shot this weekend. I had planned on dumping this image anyway, and I'm very curious to see if I can cut the base installation size in half. I'll report back.


    Dell's tech support is clueless about the "non-support" of Windows 7 and USB 3.0.
    Windows 8.x *does* natively support USB 3.0 but Windows 7 does not. It's just inconceivable to me that Microsoft can't come up with a patch to fix it.
     
  9. jet29

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    Cleanup disk space after Service Pack install on Windows 7

    You can regain about 3GB of Drive Space by removing the backup files after SP1 installation. Removing Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Backup Files

    The easiest way to remove the backup files of the Windows 7 Service Pack 1 installation is the following. Open a command prompt as administrator .Click Start => Search, type 'cmd' which will propose you the icon of the black DOSbox, a right-click on it and select "Run as Administrator". Use the following command to free up disk space after the service pack installation:

    dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded

    The process takes a few minutes to complete, it’s not done when it says 100%. Wait til you see the sentences “Service Pack Cleanup operation completed. The operation completed successfully”. Please remember that you cannot uninstall the service pack after you have cleaned up the disk space.
     
  10. Skaendo

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    #11 Skaendo, May 13, 2015
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    Yea, I was quite impressed myself. If you are not in too much of a hurry, there will probably be a new updater coming out within a week. Usually around the 15th of the month, (closer to the 20th more likely), so you might want to wait and see if simplix releases a new pack.

    I have a feeling that MS is betting on everyone is going to switch to Windows 10 as soon as they can, so they don't want to put too much time into Windows 7 and make a patch for USB 3.0. That's my opinion anyways.

    I am using Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 w/Update x64, so the SP is already integrated into the official iso and no need to remove SP backup files. The only thing that is worth cleaning up is the Windows update download folder after you run WU.

    I do run Disk Cleanup as administrator after I update, and then go in and clean out C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\ manually. It frees up about 400MB by doing both those things.
     
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    If all else fails, Go to dell's web site for your computer, Download drivers for chipset, USB, sound, network, etc. Extract them and put them on a USB drive. Install your clean version of Windows, when it prompts for drivers, point to your USB drive.

    As long as you can get online (network drivers), you should be able to get all the drivers that you need.
     
  12. Skaendo

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    I would just do a fresh install, update Windows, and see if there are any drivers that are still required. Chances are that most of the required drivers are already scooped up by MS.
     
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    i found that on reinstalling my wireless drivers werent picked up on acer 5732z laptop, simply connect via ethernet direct to your router and run windows update or goto control panel devices and the devices which have error etc click on those and look for their drivers by selecting update drivers from properties for that item and repeat for any others not found. this should work, which i have done many times in past
     
  14. CaptainKirk1966

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    Everything that has been said here about a fresh install on a Dell, from MSDN/Digital River media, is pretty typical for any manufacturer. After the dust settles, some devices may not work. The first thing to do is usually get the newly installed system online, which may involve downloading an ethernet driver using a different computer, then going to the manufacturer or windows update to get whatever else is needed.

    Dell's website is more helpful than some other manufacturers, in helping you with what you will need based on the service tag.