[HOW-TO/SUPPORT/CHAT] OFFICE C2R Download/Install/Activation

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  1. ratzlefatz

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    #2681 ratzlefatz, Sep 17, 2018
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    #2683 yomoma2, Sep 25, 2018
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    I'm having a little problem with OfficeRTool (latest):

    When downloading (current monthly/rtm) and then installing Office2019PP en-US, x64, by selecting OfficeClickToRun installer and having excluded anything but Word/Excel/PP, it'll fail to install after running start_setup.cmd; the installer never starts. By running it from a prompt, it stops after copying c2r files, but they never end up on program files, nor the installation procedes.

    OTH, performing the same by selecting ODT Setup instead of C2R will launch the installer fine and the install process goes well. (after this, converting to VL with OfficeRTool and activating with good old autokms.exe works perfectly)
    This is on a W10 17763.1 VM. Does the other method require anything installed prior to using it like a C2R service on the background, or there's a problem between my chair and keyboard? Thanks!

    PS: Also, there's any way to prevent it from re-installing OneDrive?
     
  4. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

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    Any other (older) Office installed? If YES, then uninstall other Office.
    Best practice is by using MS-FixIt-Tool. See post #4, section 5 on
    page 1 of this thread. Be sure to follow recommended steps for a
    fully cleanup.
    Thanks for reporting back.
    Better there is nothing installed which can interfere with a new install.
    Will look into this.
     
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    #2686 billygg, Sep 26, 2018
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    @ratzlefatz Thanks for your great tool, I can confirm this working on Win81-x64 (with x64 C2R).

    1. One comment for possible further optimization: Why does it download each language into separate directories, wasting bandwidth and storage space for large neutral files like "stream.(x64|x86).x-none.dat"?

    Putting all languages into a single directory seems to work just fine - as long as "package.info" file is modied according to the respecitive language or start_setup.cmd is edited with a static language variable.

    2. (Edit): The tool could prevent installing x86 C2R on x64 Windows as this not only doesn't work, but it completely screws up your system.
     
  7. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

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    I'll put it on my "maybe a good feature" list.
    Be more specific. 32bit/x86 Office on 64bit/x64 Windows normally is working. So why suppressing it?
     
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    I've read somewhere around here that x86 Office 2019 C2R may not be working on some configs, but I just tried it nevertheless (x86 Office 2019 on Windows 8.1 x64) to save some flash space and use less memory.

    The setup stopped cold, and I had to run FixIt to get rid of the partial installation as the regular setup neither did a rollback nor appeared in the list of installed programs. At least a reminder "Are you sure you want to try this?" might be helpful for unsuspecting users.

    Older msi versions work just fine of course, I used to run 2013-2016 x86 on x64 Windows.
     
  9. abbodi1406

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    ClickToRunSvc (i*.cab) architecture is OS-dependant

    ODT should handle it correctly
    but the OfficeClickToRun method start_setup.cmd needs a little enhancement :)
    Code:
    if /i "%instarch1%" equ "x86" set "instarch2=32"
    if /i "%instarch1%" equ "x64" set "instarch2=64"
    if /i "%instarch1%" equ "x86" if exist "%systemroot%\SysWOW64\cmd.exe" set "instarch2=64"
    if /i "%instarch1%" equ "x64" if not exist "%systemroot%\SysWOW64\cmd.exe" (echo.&echo ERROR: You can't install x64/64bit Office on x86/32bit Windows&echo.&pause&exit)
     
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    Hi, this is a wonderful tool. Thank you for that, but I have some little questions.

    1. What is the difference during install to choose Click2Run or ODT installer? Is there any difference after install? Because after choosing ODT, it is of course an Click2Run install
    2. It's great to see, that this tool can install Office 365 for latest features. After converting to VL, it's obviously a Office 2016 license (why not 2019?) -> Will be the additional office 365 features be cut, because it's an 2016 license? Or is is still fully 365?
    2.1 -> If not, is it recommended to choose 2019 install instead when use VL license?
    3. Is this install of point 2 updatable in the office suite?
    4. Is there a list what exactly point [T] for telemetry disables on the PC?

    Thank you very much!
     
  12. Bones558

    Bones558 MDL Novice

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    Is there a way to convert the VL install to accept a Retail key and activate?
    (Basically the opposite way this tool seems to work.)

    I have Office 2016 installed from a VL MSI install media.
    I'd like to convert it from the KMS VL activation to a Retail activation using the key I bought.

    Thanks.
     
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    thanks for the great job you dit...if I did all the things right, will I get all the updates of ms office 2019 from the windows update system? if not how i can have all the updates?
     
  14. ratzlefatz

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    Office Click2Run gets it's updates from it's own internal upate service, not from Windows update.
    Start any C2R Office App
    --> Menu --> File --> Account --> Update Options, then klick
    --> "Update Now". This will trigger/start update.
     
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  15. ratzlefatz

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    ODT setup.exe is the frontend for ClickToRun.exe. It reads configuration.xml file, does some basic checks,
    performs restrictions and calls OfficeClickToRun with the appropriate parameters. So functionally they are
    equal.
    Office 2019 is only a subset of Office 365, so Office 365 (activated locally by a Office 2016 Pro license) will still be Office 365.
    But there is a risk, that some functions need a online sign-in/verfication to be fully functional.
    No, because Office 2019 has a minor features subset.
    Sure. Use internal update service. Menu -> File -> Account -> Update Options -> Update Now.
    I have taken all info from here -> https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/how-do-i-manually-disable-telemetry-for-office-2016.68842/.
     
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  16. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

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    Sorry, no you can't do it this way.
    You must remove VL-version and install Retail version.
     
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    Thank you for clarification. I am still impressed! :)
    For testing, I switched to Insider Fast update channel to check if there is the minimalistic new Outlook design, which is not part of 2019 and yes, it's there!
    Thank you so much.
     
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    #2698 °ツ, Sep 26, 2018
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    I think there is a bug in OfficeRTool.

    I was generating a config file for Office 2019 and selected to not include OneDrive but it was not in the config file.
     
  19. ratzlefatz

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    It is. "Groove" = "OneDrive"

    <ExcludeApp ID="Groove"/>
     
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