[HOW-TO/SUPPORT/CHAT] OFFICE C2R Download/Install/Activation

Discussion in 'Microsoft Office' started by s1ave77, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. Simple07

    Simple07 MDL Addicted

    Nov 15, 2012
    580
    221
    30
    I "fresh" installed Windows 10 then:
    - Installed Office 365, no Retail to Volume conversion nor KMS Activation -> Morph is present.
    - Uninstalled Office 365, installed Office 2016, no Retail to Volume conversion nor KMS Activation -> Morph is NOT present.

    - Uninstalled Office 2016, installed Office 365, Converted Retail to Volume NO KMS Activation -> Morph is present.
    - Uninstalled Office 365, installed Office 2016, Converted Retail to Volume NO KMS Activation -> Morph is present.

    However, Office is now a little confused, it is registered as Office 2016 (16.0.7070.2026) and if you look inside the update function, it is (16.0.7030.1016). But when adding a new Proofing Language it thinks it is Office 365 and goes through the whole Office installation again, not only the proofing tool!!!! 2 instances of Office are reported in the "Uninstall or change program".
     
  2. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1002 ratzlefatz, Jul 14, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2016

    Attached Files:

    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. Zopeman

    Zopeman MDL Junior Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    67
    26
    0
    My guess, for what it is worth, is that this is by design.
    I have encountered these language pack, multiple items in Add Remove Programs on a number of occasions previously, going back even to regular installs of MSO2010?
     
  4. Simple07

    Simple07 MDL Addicted

    Nov 15, 2012
    580
    221
    30
    Usually; one can add as many languages to the same instance as wanted, without the multiple installs.
    However, notice that if you install PowerPoint or Word only, the proofing tools will remain, for example:
    Install Office + Visio + Project --> add another language --> you will have as many instances as languages.. Now remove Office (of one language), the proofing tools will remain. Remove Project (of the same language) the proofing tools will still remain. remove Visio (of the same language) the proofing tools will be removed!!!

    To have Office, Project and Visio, each from a different language will have proofing tools of three languages and only three installation instances.
     
  5. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1005 ratzlefatz, Jul 15, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2016
    I've done several tests...
    1.) Install TRIAL (no conversion/activation) - C2R Office 2016 ProPlus using O2016RTool + several LanguageAccessoryPacks
    2.) Install TRIAL (no conversion/activation) - C2R Office 2016 ProPlus using Online Web-Download directly from MS + several LanguageAccessoryPacks
    3.) Install VLSC Volume Office 2016 ProPlus + VLSC Volume ProofingTools

    1.) and 2.):
    C2R Office + localized LanguagePack/Proofing Tools = Multiple instances are always installed and shown in CPanel Programs and features.

    3.)
    VLSC Volume Office + ProofingTools = Single instance is installed (see screenshot below).
    But be aware: Current VLSC Volume version does NOT contain Morph and Designer!

    As test #2.) was done with the same result, but without any influence of O2016RTool, it seems that C2R Office is responsible for this
    behaviour. I'm sorry, but at the moment I can't see how I could modify O2016RTool to help here.
     

    Attached Files:

    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  6. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

    Sep 5, 2013
    3,262
    1,731
    120
    #1006 dhjohns, Jul 15, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    Does anyone know how to change the theme in MS Access 2016? It is listed as either White, or Colorful. In all the other Office 2016 applications the color theme is changeable via the registry, and I can apply the Black theme. Not so with Access. All other Office apps registry theme entries are here
    Code:
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Common]
    "UI Theme"=dword:00000004
    "PendingUITheme"=-
    Does anyone know where the registry entry for the theme in Access is?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1007 ratzlefatz, Jul 16, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    Have looked into that, but haven't found a solution. Seems, that Access 2016 GUI
    is not yet fully aligned to the GUI structure of the other Office programs. Will surely
    be catched up by MS in one of the future updates.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  8. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1008 ratzlefatz, Jul 18, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2016
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Zopeman

    Zopeman MDL Junior Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    67
    26
    0
    Quick question if I may..the new feature...."Office naming in Account Info now shows "Office 365 ProPlus" when installed"...
    Just tested this and indeed works fine:)
    Is this a a function of the "build" part of the process or part of the "VL activation".
    The reason I ask is because I would like to know that if I make an install DVD then the O365 ID will an attribute of the install as opposed to the activation and will be carried forward regardless of activation tool? Many thanks.
     
  10. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    There exists no official KMS-activation for "Office 365 ProPlus Subscription Client".
    We use the GVLK-key from KMS-capable Office 2016 ProPlus to activate Office 365.
    This explains, why an installed real Office 365 presents itself as Office 2016 in account
    info after conversion/activation.

    As "workaround" O2016Rtool overwrites in the registry the id for "Office 2016 ProPlus"
    after install with the string "Office 365 ProPlus". This is done during Retail2VL conversion.

    As they are digitally signed, I see no possibility to patch the downloaded setup-files
    to have this "workaround" included in the setup package during build phase.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  11. Blueingreen

    Blueingreen MDL Junior Member

    Mar 18, 2015
    73
    43
    10
    #1011 Blueingreen, Jul 19, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    July build's peculiar behaviors to report (Win 10 LTSB, UAC disabled, admin account):

    Double-clicking O2016RTool.cmd gives an empty black command window. Got it to work via a simple edit:

    Code:
    :: CHECK ADMIN RIGHTS
    REM net file >nul 2>&1
    if "%errorlevel%" NEQ "0" (goto:UACPrompt) else (goto:gotAdmin)
    But if I copy/move the same folder from the Download folder to another directory or disk, the tool stops working. It just flashes and closes itself instantly.
    The latest build that is working fine on my system is April 16 - build 2.
     
  12. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1012 ratzlefatz, Jul 19, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    You are the first to report. Never had this during my tests. Anyone else out there having this error?

    You just disabled the test for admin rights, resulting errorlevel will always be 0. This skips calling UAC prompt.

    My test environment:
    - Win10 Enterprise LTSB 2015, x64, en-US, all updates integrated
    - logged-in as user having admin rights
    - downloaded O2016RTool.7z from internet in download-folder
    - extract in download-folder using packer 7zip, creating folder O2016RTool

    Tests (UAC active):
    -> double-clicking O2016RTool.cmd -> UAC prompt appears -> after confirmation O2016RTool Main Menu appears
    -> rightclick -> run as admin -> UAC is bypassed by O2016RTool -> O2016RTool Main Menu appears

    Tests (UAC disabled):
    -> double-clicking O2016RTool.cmd -> O2016RToolMain Menu appears
    -> rightclick -> run as admin -> O2016RTool Main Menu appears

    Tests (copied O2016RTool-folder to other location):
    No malfunctions. The same results as above tests.

    I have tried every option to reproduce your errors, but was not able to.

    Have you "unblocked" downloaded O2016RTool.7z in file properties before extracting?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  13. Blueingreen

    Blueingreen MDL Junior Member

    Mar 18, 2015
    73
    43
    10
    #1013 Blueingreen, Jul 19, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    Yep, exactly. My UAC disabled via Group Policy Ed. with these settings:

    Code:
    User Account Control: Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators in Admin Approval Mode * Elevate without prompting
    User Account Control: Detect application installation and prompt… * Disabled
    User Account Control: Only elevate UIAccess applications… * Disabled
    User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode * Disabled
    What really beats me is the copy-to-other location related issue: same results with both the archive and the extracted folder. Consider that zone markers for downloaded files are also disabled via Group Policy, so I don't see anything to "unblock" in O2016RTool.7z.
     
  14. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1014 ratzlefatz, Jul 19, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    Confirmed! Used gpedit, applied the same 4 changes and O2016RTool doesn't work.
    Switched back to default values and O2016RTool works again without problems.
    This is a rare, special case. Luckily the majority of the remaining O2016RTool users
    won't face this situation.

    I will play a little and test if O2016RTool can be changed to be compatible with
    your policy rules setup. And of course the default policy values must work, too.


    Update:

    JULY, 23 version does not yet address this. A fix (if there is any which fits all) will
    come at a later time. In the meantime there is a workaround (place "REM" or "::"
    at the beginning of line 12).
    Attention: This workaround is only needed if you have set the same Policy rules and
    get the same behaviour as described above by Blueingreen. Otherwise ignore it!
    Code:
    line 11:  :: CHECK ADMIN RIGHTS
    line 12:  REM   net file >nul 2>&1
    line 13:  if "%errorlevel%" NEQ "0" (goto:UACPrompt) else (goto:gotAdmin)
    or
    line 11:  :: CHECK ADMIN RIGHTS
    line 12:  ::   net file >nul 2>&1
    line 13:  if "%errorlevel%" NEQ "0" (goto:UACPrompt) else (goto:gotAdmin)
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  15. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1016 ratzlefatz, Jul 22, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2016
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  16. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1017 ratzlefatz, Jul 22, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2016
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  17. Anderson Costa

    Anderson Costa MDL Novice

    Aug 30, 2012
    41
    6
    0
    Tested Installation of Office 2016 C2R with O2016RTool, converts to VL and activates successfully....
    Can I update Office without problems???
    Sometimes appear an pop-up requesting activation. Is this normal????
     
  18. ratzlefatz

    ratzlefatz MDL FUBAR Recon Squad

    Sep 1, 2012
    1,379
    5,000
    60
    #1019 ratzlefatz, Jul 27, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2016
    Please describe your environment and the conditions when this happens in more detail.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. Anderson Costa

    Anderson Costa MDL Novice

    Aug 30, 2012
    41
    6
    0
    #1020 Anderson Costa, Jul 28, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2016
    After the pop-up appeared I closed it. It never appears again after i open Office, Project or Visio again.
    The activation status is ok after I have checked on cmd.
    Thanks for answering me.
    EDIT: I make a antivirus scan on O2016RTool files on Avira, because I have a fear of viruses. It haven't any viruses.:clap:
    Now I can recommend O2016RTool downloaded on this site.