How to upgrade from W7/8.1 without going through the complete upgrade process

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Yen, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. nsfgp

    nsfgp MDL Novice

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    Just to add:
    1. W10-1803's gatherosstate.exe somehow does not work for me. I used 1703's exe and it works. (Daz loader + win7)
    2. Activated 1903 new install fine.
     
  2. Nitrams282420

    Nitrams282420 MDL Novice

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    i did install windows 7 home premium to my PC and activated using windows loader. i upgraded to windows 10 build 10240 and tried to activate but it shows me this error.

    The activation server determined the specified key is blocked
    Windows can’t activate right now. Try again later
    We couldn’t activate Windows
    Windows Activation failed

    do we have any work around for this? i am thinking if activating windows 7 using kms then upgrading to windows 10 build 10240 will work.
     
  3. rpo

    rpo MDL Expert

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    Did you read the OP?
     
  4. georgaros

    georgaros MDL Novice

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    Hello,
    Been reading this forum for the last couple hours so I don't ask something already answered.
    Sorry if I do.

    My mobo is ASROCK G41M VS3 R2.0

    - Made clean install of Windows 7 Pro
    - Used DAZ Loader 2.2.2 to activate
    - Installed drivers and updates and made an image.
    - Used gatherosstate.exe from the newest windows 10 1903 ISO to get the GenuineTicket.
    - Fresh install of Windows 10 Pro N 1903, stayed offline during installation, copied GenuineTicket to the right folder, rebooted, connected, Ticket gone BUT
    no activation, error 0x004F213.

    I realize I might have made some mistakes. If someone can pinpoint what went wrong it will save me a lot of time.

    maybe one of the following will work?
    - restore windows 7 image and try with gatherosstate from 1709 and 1511. (Should I run gatherosstate from elevetated cmd prompt?)
    - fresh install of windows 10 pro 1903 without the N?
    - fresh install of older windows 10 pro 1511/1709 or other?
    or upgrade the windows 7 pro installation?

    Thank you for reading this mess.
     
  5. georgaros

    georgaros MDL Novice

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    Ok,
    Got it working.
    Used gatherosstate from 1709 and installed Windows 10 Pro without N.
    One of the two did the trick.
    Thanks to everyone that contributed to this forum
     
  6. wavemaster76

    wavemaster76 MDL Member

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    It was the N, gatherosstate.exe is for Upgrades 7 > 10 and if you hadn’t have Windows 7 N your upgrade path goes to Windows 10 non-N version.

    What I mean:

    Windows 7 Pro > Windows 10 Pro: :)
    Windows 7 Pro N > Windows 10 Pro N :)
    Windows 7 Pro > Windows 10 Pro N :(
     
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  7. My VN

    My VN MDL Novice

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  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #2068 Enthousiast, Jul 24, 2019
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  9. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Just insert the key and you have a HWID=OEMRET.
     
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  10. DavidinCT

    DavidinCT MDL Senior Member

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    Tried this today.... Windows 7 Pro, I believe it was OEM key.

    1. Downloaded 1903 iso from Microsoft and made a bootable USB from MS's download tool.
    2. Pulled gatherosstate.exe off USB, coped to Windows 7 desktop in a folder...
    3. Ran gatherosstate.exe, waited for the GenuineTicket.xml to appear
    4. Copied GenuineTicket.xml to a folder on USB driver.
    5. UNPLUGGED network cable
    6. Nuked drive, installed Windows 10 pro
    7. After startup fluff, copied the GenuineTicket.xml to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket\
    8. shutdown computer, plugged in network cable.
    9. turned on... Activation didn't work, after the 4th reboot, it was activated....

    So if it does not work for you, reboot a few times....
     
  11. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    You can reboot al you want, if the key is a KMS Client Setup key it will never pickup the HWID.
     
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  12. DavidinCT

    DavidinCT MDL Senior Member

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    As I said, it was a OEM key... it was not a KVM client...
     
  13. Enthousiast

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  14. DavidinCT

    DavidinCT MDL Senior Member

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    Just one ? here. Will it work with SLIC activated machines ? I have a dell with a slic activation on it with Windows 7 and was thinking about putting 10 on it...a clean install too..
     
  15. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    If you are willing to have a bit of patience(~1 hour or so on a hdd,much less on ssd) then you can simply run the setup.exe on win 10 iso to start a manual upgrade from win 7 to win 10.This works 100%(as far as I know) as long as win 7 is genuinely activated(aka slic/oem/retail but not kms).Once upgrade is finished & win 10 obtains genuine digital license you can then format & do a fresh install.

    P.S. gatherosstate method works with slic too,it's just that above manual upgrade method is almost 100% guaranteed especially if one can wait a bit.
     
  16. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It works on all genuinely activated win 7 installs (key or slic/cert/oem:slp), even when daz loader is used, with or without slic.

    On 8.1 it only works with real genuine activations like MSDM or Key, not KMS.

    Valid Win 7/8.1 keys are accepted to activate 10 since build 10586.

    @whitestar_999 ofcourse a full upgrade will work, this thread is about avoiding to do just that (the manual gatherosstate.exe method is what a real upgrade also would do).
     
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  17. whitestar_999

    whitestar_999 MDL Addicted

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    @Enthousiast Just suggested as an option because sometimes people here either fail to follow instructions precisely or because of some random connectivity issues etc.Now with so cheap ssd I assumed whole process of manual upgrade might be finished in ~15 minutes with almost 100% success rate.:)
     
  18. adric

    adric MDL Addicted

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    A friend of mine trashed his laptop which has an oem-dm key for Win8.1. The system is no longer bootable and a lot
    of files are missing so I will need to format and clean install. If I understand correctly, installing W8.1 will automatically get activated from the MSDM key in the BIOS whereas if I install W10, I can activate it by entering the OEM-DM key.
    Is that correct?
     
  19. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    At reinstalling windows 8.1 with a OEMRET multiple editions iso, it will pick up the MSDM, yes.

    Windows 10 should do too, when using the Consumer ISO.
     
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