How to upgrade from W7/8.1 without going through the complete upgrade process

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by Yen, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    When ran on a win 8.1 Pro system (8.1 pre-installed with a MSDM for Pro) it will always endup in a HWID, because it has genuine license by MSDM.

    And when a system already has a pre-established hwid for Pro, it will also always get a HWID for Pro when re-installing 10 Pro.

    So, if either of the 2 scenarios applies to your test systems, it's not because of what you did test.
     
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    Neither of these scenarios are true of the Windows 7 system. It ran an OEM HP licensed version of Windows 7 Home Premium from the day it was manufactured up until I performed the steps above.
     
  3. Enthousiast

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    So, the win 7 Pro was already activated by the SLIC, hence the free HWID.
     
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    No, the machine only had SLIC for Windows 7 Home Premium. Unless the SLIC is valid for Professional too which it shouldn't be.

    Also, it was unactivated after I performed the Anytime Upgrade to Professional using the GVLK and I had to activate by KMS.
     
  5. Enthousiast

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    SLIC is for all SKUs: starter/basic/premium/pro/ultimate.

    On systems, activated by slic/oem:slp/certificate, you can anytime upgrade to all of the before mentioned SKU's and it will still be genuinely activated.
     
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    Ah, you may be right then. If I come across a Windows 7 system without OEM SLP I will give it a shot just to see.
     
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    No. When You have SLIC (and certificate), it will work for any edition of W7. Except Enterprise.
     
  8. Enthousiast

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    #2148 Enthousiast, Dec 26, 2019
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    I just did an inplace upgrade (ie. without having to reinstall any programs) from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 10 LTSC using the following method:

    1. Download the Windows 10 LTSB 2015 iso, unpack with Winrar and from within Windows 7, run LTSB's setup.exe. After LTSB loaded the first time, r clicked DAZ loader installation file that I had saved and changed compatibility setting to run as Windows 7. Then pressed Uninstall button to uninstall the loader. Then used KMS_VL_ALL-36 Autorenewal-setup .cmd to activate.

    2. Download the Windows 10 LTSC 2019 iso, unpack with Winrar and run from within Windows 10 LTSB 2015, LTSC's setup.exe.

    Disabled the network from the start and only turned it back on once LTSC was installed. Everything was very easy (watch and wait!). The only program I had to reinstall was Macrium Reflect. Everything is working great and turned what would have taken days for a stressful clean install of everything to a quick couple hours of beer drinking.
     
  11. Enthousiast

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    #2151 Enthousiast, Dec 28, 2019
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    There is no HWID for LTSC, this thread is about how to avoid real upgrades and still get a HWID.

    The bootloader should be gone by the upgrade from 7 to LTSB.

    Weird thing is, you can't even keep files and apps when upgrading from normal 10 to LTSC (from ltsb>ltsc you can), can you post screenshots?
     
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    #2153 noway1, Dec 29, 2019
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    Just wanted to add that my hardware is rather old: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and (a rare) Core 2 Duo E8700 and Samsung Pro SSD so that may have helped getting this done without any error messages. Also I double-checked Disk Management to make sure it all looked normal before each upgrade and used Disk Cleanup to remove old system files inbetween LTSxs.

    I think at the end I ended up having 2 recovery partitons, lol but then I found out which one was active and deleted the inactive one and expanded C: to recover the unallocated space.

    Those errors are pretty common on Google searches but solutions may not be that easy to find. Never tried a VM before but it looks like fun.
     
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    #2154 Enthousiast, Dec 29, 2019
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    Can you show the LTSC activation info, screenshot of the activation page in settings?
    What build was the 2015 LTSB ISO?
     
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    #2158 Enthousiast, Dec 30, 2019
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    The 10586 gatherosstate probably can generate genuine tickets from all KMS activated installs (except LTSC), but for the purpose of this thread (actually avoiding the full upgrade and still get a HWID), it can't be published because it involves a MAK key, although inserted by windows itself during the upgrade, it's not allowed to publish it here (it has been tried;)).

    ps, about 3 years ago, one of the first beta hwid tools was based on this concept, to be replaced by other methods, and ever since the original tool was created, most didn't see the need for other options.

    Atm i am walking a thin line, so if this last info is not allowed, just delete it.
     
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  18. august125

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    Ah, I see. Thank you.
     
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