HP Insyde BIOS recovery steps.

Discussion in 'BIOS Mods' started by kallisti5, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    cant be modded much if any.

    so your file is 01660.bin and 01660.sig


    primbus. i bet your issue is the chipset solder is loose.. bake it 12 min at 330
     
  2. WhyWeDie

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    sorry sir , but i don`t understand what u means ?

     
  3. WhyWeDie

    WhyWeDie MDL Novice

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    here what i do 1. Remove HDD Drive 2. Eject DVD Drive 3. Remove the battery 4. Insert the USB thumb drive with files (0165C & 01660 & 1660.bin & .sig) 4. Hold down the keyboard windows key + 'B' 5. Connect the AC adapter 6. Turn on the notebook with the power button & keep hold down the keyboard windows key + 'B' 7. release the power button but keep hold down windows key + B 8. For second caps lock light , i wait but nothing happen (no read from USB) PS. i used USB SanDisk 32GB & Toshiba 4GB
     
  4. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    and you sre sure its the bios ? not the Video chip solder loose ?
     
  5. WhyWeDie

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    the problem happened after i try to update the bios, PC freeze and i turn-off and open agian , black screen came
     
  6. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    what made u flash bios.. people just dont flash bios for no reason.. usualy a motive to fix something.. like bad ram symptoms = bad flash
     
  7. WhyWeDie

    WhyWeDie MDL Novice

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    sound problem, headphone working , speaker not working, i ready in some forums to update bios, after try many times with sound driver, windows installation..etc
    so, i download last bios update from HP site # F-52 but the PC freeze during the update, that`s all
    sorry for ann0ying u
     
  8. cytherian

    cytherian MDL Novice

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    ** REWRITE **

    Sorry, my post didn't initially get off on the right foot, as I was still in the midst of learning a few things and later found a few answers to questions that were bugging me. I had dumped a lot of thoughts without coherent organization.
    :bangin:

    So, the upshot is that I obtained the Phoenix Tool v2.14 and using it generated the DEC and SIG files from my HP Insyde BIOS files (F20, sp54025) for a dv6-6145dx. I understand that I need to place these on the UEFI installed USB stick in the "Current" sub folder, and I should be able to reboot while holding the Win + 'B' keys.

    At this stage, all I'm interested in is being able to apply a BIOS update from boot, actually the exact same BIOS as I have now. I just want to verify that I've got the process down and the tools generated the right files.

    I've also just discovered the "Flas**t" program, which is supposed to be able to flash the BIOS files from the DOS prompt. Do both methods work equally?



    And lastly, my whole reason for going down this path was in preparation for a BIOS mod down the road. I'm severely frustrated by the crippling effect of the BIOS white list and wish to install a WiFi card that my BIOS will not allow because of it. I don't want to do anything else, like muck around with activation and licenses. My system is otherwise fully legitimate. Supposedly there are ways to modify the files in order to modify the white list and allow other devices. I've read a couple of different takes on this and I'm still not quite sure which is the best route -- a modified BIOS by a 3rd party (i.e. bios-mods website) or hex editing my own BIOS files. Any advice on this?
     
  9. LatinMcG

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    the ####.DEC.BIN needs to be renamed to board id usually 01649.BIN or whatever yours is under battery.. not 01649.DEC.BIN
    heres the list of which it could be
    [Platform_Check]
    Flag=2
    PlatformName1=Casablanca Danube ( not on sticker)
    PlatformName2=Sabine ( not on sticker)
    PlatformName3=1649
    PlatformName4=164A
    PlatformName5=164B
    PlatformName6=164C
    PlatformName7=164D
    PlatformName8=164E
    PlatformName9=366A
    PlatformName10=366B
    PlatformName11=366C
    PlatformName12=358B
    PlatformName13=358C
    PlatformName14=358D
    PlatformName15=358E
    PlatformName16=358F
    PlatformName17=3590
    PlatformName18=3591
    PlatformName19=3592
    PlatformName20=3593

    any of these under your battery ? thats your filename .. put 0 in front of it like 03592.bin and .sig
    take hdd out as its recovery might interupt USB recovery < same with flashing mod.. take that file out of partition HP_TOOLS:\Hewlett-Packard\Bios\Current and replace with the modded ones if they are for sure working ( for future bricks and recover to mod not original.)
     
  10. cytherian

    cytherian MDL Novice

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    Thanks for the quick reply, Latin McG. Yes, I forgot to mention it but I am aware of the need to rename the ".DEC" to ".BIN". My extracted F20 BIOS file produced a "01649F20.BIN" which then Phoenix Tools created the "01649F20.bin.DEC" and "RSA.SIG", as well as other files. I don't need to do this for the "S20" file, right?

    As for the platform reference, I did spot a "Rev" label with 358B-110 in the battery compartment. But I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Which file should I rename to "0358B.bin"?

    EDIT: OK, I got it now. And yes, my motherboard ID (from BIOS) indicates 358B.
     
  11. LatinMcG

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    yep 0358.bin and .sig
    depends which videocard it is
    (device id of videocard or is it chipset ?? not sure but it checks pci device id to match the proper file... in bold)
    [MULTI_FD]
    Flag=1
    FD#01=PCI,0,0,0,0,FFFFFFFF,17051022,01649S21.bin
    FD#02=PCI,0,0,0,0,FFFFFFFF,96011022,01649F21.bin

    from researching that laptop model is Radeon HD 6620G so thats 9601 = 01649F21.bin that u need to use renamed to your board id
     
  12. cytherian

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    Thanks for the additional info. I'm still just a little puzzled... When using WinRAR to extract the contents of the Insyde BIOS file (sp54025.exe), the file that is extracted is 01649F20.bin. There isn't any other BIN file produced that closely matches the System Board ID, as the instructions suggest.

    My understanding was that the Phoenix Tool having generated 01649F20.bin.DEC means that you're supposed to rename it back to the original file name, minus the last 3 characters--> 01649.bin.

    So to confirm I should actually not retain that original name and instead rename 01649F20.bin.DEC to 0358B.bin, and RSA.sig to RSA.sig to 0358B.sig?


    The original instructions didn't say to do alter the name like this, but I think it's either an oversight or a matter of not having been revised (older way to do it that previously worked). I did spot a different thread where someone else said that you need to rename it to the hex code of the motherboard in order for it to work.
     
  13. LatinMcG

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    lol i never heard of hexcode naming.

    however yes you are right u name it 0358B.BIN and .SIG.
    original instructions are good but not complete... as always if the poster leaves it as is
     
  14. cytherian

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    OK, good to know it and thanks for the confirmation.

    I think I am pretty clear now on the process of using the Phoenix Tool (v2.14) to extract the BIOS file, select the appropriate related files, generate the revised file, then rename it according to the motherboard code. This should work for being able to recover the BIOS without using any 3rd party utility (just reboot with Win + 'B' key held and active BIOS should pick it up).


    I haven't been able to find the right place to ask another BIOS related question I have, so I'm hoping you wouldn't mind answering it here. The BIOS created for my laptop is RSA signed. If I modify the BIOS without adding any data, just swapping hex codes, is it correct that I should be able to produce a revised file that will still pass RSA? I wish to alter the white list. From several postings I have read, the current BIOS (sp54724) with removed white list supposedly does not work properly. I would rather just make the minor modification to substitute a specific card I am intending to use. Please let me know if you believe that this is a practical approach. Thanks!
     
  15. LatinMcG

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    i have never bothered with it. i rather buy a laptop with no whitelist .. not HP
     
  16. cytherian

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    My problem is that I had no clue that this white list existed. I have another HP laptop that doesn't have a white list, so I never had a problem when I upgraded the wifi card.

    From what I've seen, there is a huge initiative on breaking these white lists. Some laptops are easier to deal with it than others. Unfortunately, HP is notoriously the most difficult. Anyway, I'll have to pursue that as a different avenue of research. Thank you for your help, Latin McG.
     
  17. LatinMcG

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    %90 of HP is whitelist locked... compared to %5 Dell (some new dell models might have whitelist.. not many)
     
  18. cytherian

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    I had read a post recently where someone had complained to HP about the white list and eventually they got a BIOS update where the white list was removed. It could be a rumor, but I'm hoping it's got some authenticity to it. I really feel that HP has made a serious mistake having taken this white list thing too far. They are going to lose a significant client base, especially the BUSINESS community where fast WiFi cards are critical to smooth business.
     
  19. LatinMcG

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    they know and they have removed in a FEW models.. not many.

    they know they lose $ when people buy a $10 atheros card on ebay that performs same or better as their (overpriced) $69 broadcom or intel.
     
  20. cytherian

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    Do you know which models specifically? I'd like to know in order to keep an eye out for one.

    So have you found Atheros cards in general perform better than Realtek? If I can't get a BIOS update done for my laptop, I need to find a substitute for the terrible Ralink RT5390 that's installed. I wish I could get a 300Mbps capable card, but the white list doesn't contain any (despite the service manual saying that the 300Mbps capable Realtek RTL8191SE is supported--it isn't).