I feel you have left the realm of sanity and gone into utter nonsense. If what you are saying is true then the man who murders his wife and child and turns the gun on himself is actually doing the will of God.
Here's a thought...Perhaps this man knew that He had the propensity to kill his family. Perhaps He had done it in a previous life. Maybe (just maybe, mind you) GOD gave Him a chance to try to make it through this life without killing His loved ones. He tried to resist the urge to kill and he failed. Some would say that He was "posessed by demons". It's possible, but not in the classical "Exorcist" sense. In my travels, I've seen many people battle demons (Not the classic Dungeons and Dragons kind...now that's insane thinking. ) Demons can come in innocuous forms; Try to quit smoking after smoking for 30 years and you'll understand what I mean. To me, life is open to interpretation, and can be viewed from many different perspectives. :Miki.
While replying the bold part of the quote I can think of two: The first is simply the lack of any solid evidence for it. One can imagine types of evidence which could exist for it, such as the existence of specific and verifiable memories from past lives. But there aren't any. Being skeptics, we tend to reject things for which there is no evidence. The second is that there is a vast body of evidence that the brain is the seat of consciousness and of personal identity- of memory, preferences, beliefs, etc. The things which make us 'us'. Changes to the brain change those things, and changes in those things can even change the brain. Since we know that old brains don't go into new bodies, it is hard to see how any of these things could be continued from one life to the next.
which point of view is you ? which part do you not have a relationship with? do you have evidence to support that it is not all you ? do you have evidence to support that you do not have a relationship with all of it? Hint: myopic awareness is not evidence but only incorrect perception ..
To me humans over complicate things. We have gods and devils and demons and good and evil, just humanizing all the unknowns. Apparently it's too hard for people to say "we don't know" and leave it at that. Luckily I'm not human.
of course, there is the free will of hippotamusses to consider too, or the free will of walrusses, or the free will of ponies... at least ponies do not overcomplicate things.. they just get eaten in a predestined way..
For the Athiests in this thread XTC-Dear God These threads always go no where Speaking to deaf ears f'n blows There should just be two threads A. Believers - Source of life, unified field theory or comprehensive analysis of the cosmos B. Non-believers - Only the ego's of the atheist exist and what their machines tell them exists or not! Cause the two never come together to understand or cooperate in a higher knowledge or enlightenment, they just take each other down and try to rule over eachother, even when a certain one can bridge the two, they still don't listen This thread sucks p.s. Oh and don't forget the one's who claim believing but really don't hence the third variable C. Hypocrites - Pretend their is source of life but really only believe what their ego's or machines inform them of which is always limited, partial and temporary Code: A. Believers - Source of life or unified field theory B. Non-believers - Only the ego's of the atheist exist and what their machines tell them exists or not! C. Hypocrites - Pretend their is source of life but really only believe what their ego's or machines inform them of which is always limited, partial and temporary
Everyone who claims to have a comprehensive understanding of the cosmos is a fool. We can see as far as science tells us, everything beyond is pity little human minds making up stuff to boast _their_ ego. As I said, everyone is free to be stupid. It takes strength to say "I don't know". People without that strength make up s**t.
It also takes strength to be self-informed of what is, and to place people in same box as the place you perceive from is not strength, it's cowardly and deliberately uninformative perhaps sadistic If the unified field theory, unbeknowing to all science, would imply that what makes up life then indeed at least a human can tune in to that knowledge for him/her self But I guess you have a machine or partial knowledge to market to me to make your living...lol Hence the universal common denominator is sold/marketed back to humanity so a few can rule over all to please their true ego based "personalities" lol...so science only gives us partial information through true ego and machines and if a shaman or someone who knows from within not outside has other perspective kill them like we did all indiginous cause the corporate/industry based culture must prevail Yea that sounds like strength to me ...lol Funny too is I missed commenting that it is truly foolish to limit everyone based on sciences lack of a unified field theory or comprehensive analysis of the cosmos...lol Misery still loves company and the athiest and their machines and partial logic still rule planet earth and war, genocide and ecological rape/populution are their daily bread or offering Nice one, real intelligent and original ...lol Hence keeping one from connecting to what connects all things is truly foolish and inherently selfish and a reflection of a room temperature IQ ...lol But when you and those like you lack any comprehensive understandings then we must all follow you to the end of the earth...lol Guys like you also tried to sell us the earth is flat but that didn't work out did it genious Only be as enlightened as TCM, anything other, take them down, call them witches and burn them, kill them, they must die for we all live at the pace of TCM's science and no further or you will feel his wrath...lol True terrorism
All I see is ego boosting and a lot of "lol". And speaking of room temperature IQ... You have serious issues. Get help. Yeah, completely turning around and blaming science for the failures of church makes your argument much more true. WTF. The church _burned_ people for saying the earth is not flat. Seriously, get some help.
If your view is partial and temporary then yes genious, that is all you will see Your mind is like a parachute, if it's closed like yours and science it won't open and I don't feel like falling down to earth at 80 mph cause your closed parachute didn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing personal back to my original post, these posts go nowhere, especially when we're all at the effect of what is partial and ruled by force and ignorance Believe what govt's sell us or die and be ostracized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone that opens up other doors of perception must be the devil and kill them for we need to keep the status quo Ok below room temperature IQ ...lol Notice you don't actually bring anything new to the table just same regurgatated non-original ideas that you we're sold...lol And you paid too much..lol Got an original idea? Nope, not when your a sheep (in wolfs clothing)
As I said, anyone who claims to be "enlightened" beyond what he can reasonably explain is a fool. Perhaps you ought to host your own TV show where you ripoff people with dubious astrology. Edit: constant laughter doesn't help your point. It enforces the fact that you have mental issues. And while you're at it, thank science that you can sit in your little home and spout nonsense into the world. Those computers came out of nowhere, right?
And so no original ideas again , just ridicule others cause your scared to know beyond what your sold by media and gov'ts. How can you be so scared? Their is an ultimate truth and point standing is not whether or not someone claims full enlightenment but that you in your sadistic ignorance would force others to be only where your at and if they have other ideas other than where your at and science it at them attack them That is what is funny about your empty posts, well at least one thing that is funny Can you provide an unified field theory or comprehensive analysis of the cosmos Can you answer that question troll? Hmm Probably not cause like other nazis here you just want to treat MDL and it's forums like it's a joke and your one liners convince only your self that your the best and with science you are the quite the team. Team meaning partially/temporarly informed or the like theorof People are lazy and like being comfortable and anyone during history that gives other than the norm would offer must be killed in one way or another All truths go through 3 stages 1. They are riduculed 2. They are violently opposed 3. They are accepted as being self-evident You seem to sit in stages 1 and two Can you even debate point to point? Not ...lol
Your aggression and fantasies of killing show how dangerous unfounded beliefs are. Your violent accusations only reflect what you wish to do, not what I wish to do. There is nothing to debate with you since you didn't make a single verifiable claim yet. You're the prime example of a religious nutjob.