If God is Omniscient then Human is not free.

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Free will doesn't exist If God is omniscient.

  1. If yes, why?

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  2. If no, then how?

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  1. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Fruitless and pointless...
     
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  2. TCM

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    Child abuse and lack of education. You can't fix that in their lifetime. Once in a while smart people manage to break from that pit, but for the most part the best hope is that it dies off naturally. And given the track record in recent history, religion is constantly declining, which is good.

    http://www.pewforum.org/2012/10/09/nones-on-the-rise/

    Even Americans can do it.
     
  3. nodnar

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    all we can do is excuse total stupidity. gorski.. ;)
    and i do mean total...
     
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  4. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    You won't understand even if I show it to you, because your 4D brain cannot process that kind of information. You can understand only if you use introspection, which requires you to be thoughtless: then the mask falls off, the actor can see the veil and understand...there is no spoon, is it YOU that bends.
     
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  5. TCM

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    We weren't talking about understanding. The question was how you know.

    It must be really hard to follow, is it?
     
  6. nodnar

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    really... total stupidity.............................................................................
     
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  7. nodnar

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    there is no end to it.......
     
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  8. R29k

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    What planet are you from ooh Lord of Light that your brain can comprehend what us mere mortals cannot ? Let the veil fall and let us bask in the glow of your brilliance.
     
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  10. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    Please read again my previous post, but this time with an open mind...
     
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  11. TCM

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    You mean this one?

    I think we can come to the conclusion that you don't actually know, after pages and pages of dodging a simple question. Thanks for playing, though.

    Troll more intelligently next time. The village idiot is still shining through.
     
  12. Joe C

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    Are you serious???
    Their minds have been hermetically sealed by science
     
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  13. gorski

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    It is impossible to overstate the strength of religious dogma, concerning the "closing of minds" to the point of "closing the very lives" of those who dared trying to prize open their minds, against the religious dogma/belief...

    This is beyond belief...:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: so to speak... :D :D :biggrin:
     
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  14. Joe C

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    #1454 Joe C, Oct 20, 2015
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    This isn't about religion, It's about God. Stop confusing the two. If you want religion, Stop eating fish on Friday's. God is not about religious dogma. If you have an open mind, you would already know that
     
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  15. nodnar

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    i love cod on friday.l it rarely confuses me. ;)
     
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  16. Joe C

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    Good thing we are not religious, I like salmon on Friday's and I'm not confused. I do consider which brand of beer I want to have with dinner.
     
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  17. gorski

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    #1457 gorski, Oct 20, 2015
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    "This isn't about religion, It's about God. Stop confusing the two."

    No, it's about you lot confusing "open" with "scared" and "confused" mind, clutching at straws, instead of doing the 'manly' thing and doing whatever we can, grounded in ourselves!!!

    But at that point I know you missed completely the last 2500 years of development in Philosophy - at least...
     
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  18. sid_16

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    You just keep blabbering here with these garbage. 'You know many thing/s' without even understanding what you know and trying us to answer your stupid question. Extraordinary claims need to be posted with arguments/evidence to support your claim or else it'll be regarded as pseudo-spiritual.
     
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  19. sid_16

    sid_16 MDL Giveaway Organiser

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    Do you understand what you posted? Are you mentally ill?
     
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  20. sid_16

    sid_16 MDL Giveaway Organiser

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    See post

    :D
     
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