Thanks to TechMan, Helmut, and Flip, I am almost embarrassed to say that although my downloads indicated complete that I discovered when looking in tools that I had to actually had to activate the programs from the download list. So much to learn with the new Windows 8. I have successfully downloaded Java and other programs I have been trying although it hasn't solved the gaming problem in Facebook. May be a problem directly with them. What a great forum, maybe some day I'll know enough about the program to actually help someone else, have a great day!!