Installing with USB on old machine

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by ccc1522, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. ccc1522

    ccc1522 MDL Junior Member

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    I'm trying to install from usb. My bios only has options of USBZIP or USBFDD to boot from with USB (no usbhdd). Neither work. Is there a something I have to do to make it boot from USB? I read somewhere that using a windows 95 boot file will work? If so, I'm doing something wrong. My system info:
    HP Pavilion 04
    Pentium(R) 4
    System model P6319A-ABA-750N
    3.2 GHz
    1.25 GB Ram
    Bios version V1.60
    Bios revision Award Software 3.2 11/22/01
    82845 processor
    82801BA/BAM usb universal host controller

    I know this machine is old, I am currently running windows 7 enterprise

    This is my first post. I know there are some brilliant minds on here and I am looking forward to being a part of this community
     
  2. LatinMcG

    LatinMcG Bios Borker

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    #2 LatinMcG, Nov 7, 2012
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    in bios go to HDD order with usb plugged in before entering bios.
    change there
    (2002.. it might be too old to boot usb. make dos cd if needed with bios files)
     
  3. Tito

    Tito Super Mod / Adviser
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    Most probably the USB is actually listed under HDD as the second hard disk.
     
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  4. fs2com

    fs2com MDL Junior Member

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    Usually I prefer burn the iso to dvd instead of try to fiddling to make it the usb boot work...
    no time wasting and get the job done... unless your dvd drive got problem then its worth to try to make usb work
     
  5. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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    next is to check if your CPU supports NX. If not, you might not be able to install W8.
    Just in case ...
     
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  6. s1ave77

    s1ave77 MDL Guide Dog/Dev

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    Advantage of doing this install from usb-key is much better reading speed, so setup will be faster :cool2:.
     
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  7. WinFLP

    WinFLP MDL Senior Member

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    What I have done is have install files (sources) on a USB drive, boot from Win8 DVD (a recovery CD would do as well),press Shift+F10 to get cmd prompt. Navigate to USB drive, and open \sources\setup.exe. That will launch setup from the USB drive and give you better transfer speed.
     
  8. equicet

    equicet MDL Novice

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    Before you spend any more time, make sure your Pentium 4 supports NX as Paul Desmond already suggested.
    Run CPUZ and see if you have a Pentium 4 640 3.2 GHz/2M/800 - none of the other 3.2 GHz P 4 have NX, you can confirm with a little research.
    BTW, your motherboard will not boot from a USB stick.
     
  9. fs2com

    fs2com MDL Junior Member

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    yes i know usb faster but that's not the OP problem asked :p. I just give alternative way to the OP for his problem because he can't use usb drive to setup.
    Nice tip... will try your way if I had a chance. Never though this way before :)
     
  10. ccc1522

    ccc1522 MDL Junior Member

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    I ran CPU-Z and found that it only has 1.6 GHz, but don't know what else to look at to see if it supports NX. Maybe this will show you what I have. CPU-z CPU.jpg CPU-z Mainboard.png

    Is there anyway to run windows 8 if the system doesn't support NX?

    Thanks for your help
     
  11. ccc1522

    ccc1522 MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks, I am going to try this as soon as I know if my sytsem will run windows 8. If it won't, I will use this approach to reinstall windows 7.

    Thanks for all your help
     
  12. PaulDesmond

    PaulDesmond MDL Magnet

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  13. roirraW "edor" ehT

    roirraW "edor" ehT MDL Addicted

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    I think there's no way a PC with a BIOS from 2001 will have NX capability. Intel didn't put it in the P4 until after AMD released their first Athlon 64 in 2003.
     
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  14. equicet

    equicet MDL Novice

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    Although you have a Pentium 4 3.2 GHz, it is running at half-speed 1.6. Your FSB is 100 MHz instead of 200.
    However, even if you COULD change that, you could not run Win 8 RTM on this or any other socket 478 motherboard. The Pentium 4 6xx and the Pentium D 9xx which have NX are socket 775.
    There is one possibility and that is to run Windows 8 Consumer Preview. It doesn't require NX and should install OK.
    You will have to get it from a torrent as you can't get it from Microsoft any more. It's a 2.5 GB download, worth a try but it won't be much fun to use. When you have the ISO, just extract the files with winrar to a folder and run setup.exe for an upgrade. You will need 20 GB of disk space.