IR5 - The Official Windows 7 Rearm Solution

Discussion in 'MDL Projects and Applications' started by timesurfer, May 10, 2010.

Tags:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Page 43 of 75
  1. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    9,551
    Likes Received:
    67,118
    Trophy Points:
    300
    #841 Daz, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
    @ timesurfer
    But it leaves enough behind to rearm itself.

    @ MasterDisaster
    I'm that picky though, I don't like that I'd have to run the thing again every so often. I like to install and forget about it without anything extra added. I mean why would I install something which I will have to install again at some point and it also adds background tasks (even if they run for 7 seconds) when I could install a loader or a BIOS mod just once and then remain activated -- they both don't touch system files either so they ain't "super bad hacks".

    You could say well what if MS finds the loader, to that I say I've already got another method which Windows can't do anything about. But then as a comeback the same could be said for this via the scenario I put out to timesurfer.

    MS updates WAT to log the date and rearm count, if you then reset then boom "not genuine". The only solution then would be to uninstall WAT but if the loader was still working I wouldn't even have to do that or install something every few weeks/months. So you see it can really work both ways, it comes down to user preference and my personal preferences is static activation (and I mean for all software, not just x vs. y).
     
  2. MasterDisaster

    MasterDisaster MDL Expert

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,256
    Likes Received:
    674
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #842 MasterDisaster, Jun 30, 2010
    Here's my line:

    This tool facilitates you to use Windows 7 in trial mode until you are ready to buy a license.

    We do not support piracy.

    If you call your self picky, i am pickier. I don't like to lose 2 seconds on every boot.
     
  3. Super_User

    Super_User MDL Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #843 Super_User, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
    I think that "how long does it take to install it" is not the issue here but if this project deserves to be up there with the "big boys". There are some criteria to determine if a project is worthy the sticky status. Now, of course different forums/mods/admins have their own and ultimately they will decide what goes where. As members of this great forum we can only post our views about the issues.

    IMHO the questions that should be asked before a project becomes a sticky are:

    1. Is it a viable solution?
    2. Is it fully functional?
    3. Does it work as intended?
    4. Is it actively developed and supported by the developer?
    5. Is it out of beta?
    6. Is it popular enough? (the key word here is "enough")
    7. Is it easy enough to use? (again the key word here is "enough")

    All the answers should be "yes" for a project to become a sticky. And I believe that in the case of IR4 you can safely say that answers to all the questions are "yes".
     
  4. Smorgan

    Smorgan Glitcher

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    1,855
    Likes Received:
    1,049
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #844 Smorgan, Jun 30, 2010
    Well I guess its up to you even thou (lol) the same goes for me except I don't use anything out there....
    I think that this would be easier if Timesurfer/MasterDisaster did this:
    You guys said that it took 15 minutes to rearm/reinstall IR4 why not make it a service which runs in pieces to make it easier so that it can reinstall itself... I won't say that I'm not surprised he ain't gonna try it but I'll give it a go on Vmware (note i do the same with my hack if that helps)....
    My user preference to use all of them in comparison to see which works best on Vmware unfortunately since I don't have a machine I can actually experiment with this stuff on now sadly enough needless to say I was reinstalling the crap outta the OS most of the time lol...

    Well I suppose its time for me to add this to the list of hacks I have to try since I also have to try a office 2010 one....
     
  5. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    9,551
    Likes Received:
    67,118
    Trophy Points:
    300
    #845 Daz, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
    @ MasterDisaster
    It's a valid line, sort of. If you're planning to purchase Windows 7 at some point, but it's still exploiting the system because the same could be said for a loader.

    "Wasn't the trial long enough? Install this until you're ready to buy Windows 7 and then simply uninstall it when you do."

    Uninstalling reverts you back to an untouched system state with a trial serial installed...


    @ Super_User
    Pretty much spot on. This is why I would like to see just 1 version of this doing well with some decent download figures.
     
  6. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,527
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    270
    #846 timesurfer, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
    (OP)
    When has MS ever come after an task...lol

    You say it like its every couple weeks or months. It's only for 2-5 minutes every 150 days and zero worries of "de-activating" ;)

    Daz loader has always worked fine for me really ;) IR4 seems less of a threat though for MS to come after since IR4 can't be intergrated as loaders are many times and in trial your always genuine!
     
  7. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer / Admin Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    9,551
    Likes Received:
    67,118
    Trophy Points:
    300
    #847 Daz, Jun 30, 2010
    As I said dude, personal preference. I like static solutions so even if it was 150 days away id still hate to have to run it again.

    Anyway as I said theres a few other developers with applications that they put a lot of time into, just as you have with this. I appreciate that and while this project doesn't match up with my personal tastes I didn't say that thats what'd stop it from getting sticky status. If you get a solid version and you need an FTP link for it then contact me and I will add it for you, lets see how many downloads it can clock in. If you get some decent figures and keep up the support then it will get sticky status, it's that simple.
     
  8. JaguarXJ12

    JaguarXJ12 Guest

    #848 JaguarXJ12, Jun 30, 2010
    Actually Microsoft can do whatever they want because I won't get affected from it hehe
    It's simple: I'm offline and automatic updates is shut off, no updates more then redists of DirectX, Visual C++ and .NET Framework hence no problems with WAT or WGA at all.

    Windows 7 SPs isn't really interesting until SP2 or SP3 or at all because I can play anything I want as it is already.
     
  9. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,527
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    270
    #849 timesurfer, Jun 30, 2010 (OP)
    I'll need to confirm with MD but I think it's safe to say just use the link on first page...lol ;)

    And let us know when you test IR4 3.1 as we've all here tested your tool many, many times bro ;)
     
  10. acyuta

    acyuta MDL Expert

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    1,669
    Likes Received:
    385
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #850 acyuta, Jun 30, 2010
    One small query that has been bugging me for sometime and is relevant if one wants to try out new Daz loader (say 1.8.5) after uninstalling the older one say 1.8.4 (compared with installing say 1.8.5.. over say 1.8.4) : I have tested that uninstalling daz reverts to unactivated state. But this was done after 3-4 days after fresh install of win 7. Will this work as the image is less than 30 days old. What happens after 30 days if I uninstall Daz.
     
  11. Super_User

    Super_User MDL Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    92
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #851 Super_User, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
  12. qewlpal

    qewlpal MDL Addicted

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Messages:
    568
    Likes Received:
    1,902
    Trophy Points:
    30
    #852 qewlpal, Jun 30, 2010
    Hi timesurfer/MasterDisaster,
    First thank you so much for giving all of us such a wonderful piece of software.I have followed all the threads related to this project(which are linked in the first page).Its my personal preference, just like yours, to really use Windows without using anything that i dont know what they does, which attracted me to this project. But initially i noticed there were 2 versions(in fact 3 if i consider 7ekn00's GUI) of this..GUI from timesurfer, Console from MasterDisaster and also since the console version,in a way, is open source i loved it! but as of IR4 2 i think there is no console version available. The last version is 2.0 by MasterDisaster. Now my point is, if only u could post the source code as well it not only helps beginners like me to learn a lot of stuff but also many people can see and fine tune(if at all necessary..lol) this already wonderful product.
    Two specific great improvements in IR4 3.1 which are not in console version are
    1. Automatic reboot into recovery environment(RE) and
    2. Re-Arm without requiring reboot(the latest change)
    I would love to know how these are done.
    Has been a great fan of your work on this!! Hope this gets the sticky status..:)

    Respect timesurfer and MasterDisaster:worthy:
     
  13. MasterDisaster

    MasterDisaster MDL Expert

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,256
    Likes Received:
    674
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #853 MasterDisaster, Jun 30, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    For automatic boot to RE, the following command is needed
    Code:
    reagentc /boottore
    the above command set a BCD entry to boot into RE on the next restart.

    Rearm within windows is very simple, just restart the Software Protection Platform Service after the rearm instead of a restart.

    The source code for this project is always available in this post.
     
  14. Zombie

    Zombie MDL Novice

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2010
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #854 Zombie, Jun 30, 2010
    Just found out that I cannot go manually to Recovery Mode from F8 screen, it complains of a device missing? Is there a way to fix this? x64 ultimate.
     
  15. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,527
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    270
    #855 timesurfer, Jun 30, 2010 (OP)
    Click yes and let it automatically boot into RE for you
     
  16. qewlpal

    qewlpal MDL Addicted

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2010
    Messages:
    568
    Likes Received:
    1,902
    Trophy Points:
    30
    #856 qewlpal, Jul 1, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 20, 2017
    WOW! things seem pretty easy after u know how they are done.
    Thank you very much for the reply MasterDisaster.:)
     
  17. rmittal

    rmittal MDL Novice

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2010
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #857 rmittal, Jul 1, 2010
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2010
    I have Windows XP installed on a primary partition. I used the VHD option to install Windows 7 on my system. So my Windows 7 is installed in a VHD. When I boot Windows 7 (VHD) the system/boot drive (XP) has its drive letter removed.

    I want to ask how should I use IR4. Will it's use affect files within the VHD or it will also effect my XP partition.

    Note: I have multiple Windows 7 (VHD) installs.
     
  18. vois

    vois MDL Novice

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2010
    Messages:
    22
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #858 vois, Jul 1, 2010
    nice job,coud ask you to insert change of each new version on first page???
    It's also for understand because there's a new version,and if someone could use it with more simplicity
    Best reguard
    Vale
     
  19. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,527
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    270
    #859 timesurfer, Jul 1, 2010 (OP)
    The latest IR4 attributes are always on first page immediately as they are now ;)

    I replaced the usual changelog with the IR4 Saga and IR4 Facts :p
     
  20. Smorgan

    Smorgan Glitcher

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    1,855
    Likes Received:
    1,049
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #860 Smorgan, Jul 1, 2010
    I think hes asking for the change log to see what the differences are from one version to the next...
    And yea that would be helpful...
     
Page 43 of 75
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.