IR5 - The Official Windows 7 Rearm Solution

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  1. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #1061 timesurfer, Aug 3, 2010
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    I try sometimes not to laugh but it's difficult...lol Really didn't mean to sound discouraging or competitive but anyhow...

    With loader when you integrate it you have to use switches I believe so that was my curiosity was how does he get the "yes" button to go to do the reset rearms?

    Clearly he can reboot into PE and out of PE automatically with the same cmds we use in IR4 but just didn't understand how it would install IR4 with his image?

    I understand how he can do cmds in RE/PE but does he mount the image or use the DVD drive or USB? Those are things I tried to ask but his altered method still seems a mystery to me as does how he integrates my program into his winPE image. Maybe MasterDisaster can enlighten us to this way of automating IR4 and how's it done or not?

    IR4 hasn't been integrated yet into RTM ISO as I wouldn't advice a "pre-trial extend...lol ISO". I realize that with activators and KMS their is virtually no interaction except with KMS maybe 2 min a year to activate both Pro, enterprise and office when doen manually but IR4 is what it is and nothing more. Daz was my first activator and still one of my favorites. I'm really into KMS and use it to activate office 2 times a year manually but for some reason/preference I always put IR4 back on my computer so I think it's my favorite even though it is the only interactive solution hence it needs some attention and a reinstall every 5 months. But in having participated in it's development I was kinda lucky to have co-designed it's characteristics and abilities so I'm kinda closer to it's use than most but really I appreciate all solutions here even the not so popular ones that also indeed work fine.

    I myself at this moment in time don't have the programming skills to reset rearms inside windows but that is really the only improvement I think is worth investigating by someone with the abilities to do so...
     
  2. cannelle

    cannelle MDL Novice

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    Looking at Taks Scheduler, for the Rearm task, I get:
    Triggers: 11:18 PM every 30 days
    Next run; 2010-08-04 23:18
    Last run: never
    Created: 2010-07-05 23:18

    In Control Panel / System, I get "1 day to activate"
    The current time is 2010-08-03 23:05

    Will I be off limits at midnight? Maybe it is ok.

    Any reason to not set the task for 00:00 instead of the time of the install (in my case, 23:18)
    The way it is setup, I think my computer must be ON between 23:18 and 24:00 to avoid going off limits...
    I don't see the benefit to delaying until the Creation Time. Did I missed something?
     
  3. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Hi
    Whenever you install IR4 is when it will rearm once every 30 days. So just reinstall IR4 at the time you think your computer will be on. If it is not on no problem just open IR4 and click rearm and wait like 10 seconds and you'll get another 30 days just like as if the rearm task has run. I'm uncertain why it says 1 day to activate.I've seen that I think twice so far but wasn't able to fix it. I wonder what other programs to activate you have used. Please tell me so I or others can try to help. later
     
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    cannelle MDL Novice

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    Now it is 12:30PM (about) and my computer is still in trial mode. But strange... it still shows 1 day to activate.

    Other questions about the Rearm task:
    - In Conditions: "wake the computer to run this task" is not checked: Is it not something interesting to activate?
    - in Settings: "Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed" is not checked. I thought this one has already be discussed and would be selected... Comments?

    Also, again, how about scheduling for "12:00 AM"?
    Thanks
     
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    cannelle MDL Novice

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    Sorry... I meant "Now it is 12:30 AM" (I guess I will nevet get used to this...; using 24h times is so much simpler)
     
  6. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #1066 timesurfer, Aug 4, 2010
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    You know this doesn't activate your computer. It just lets you be in unlimited trial with a little interaction. That is all it does. If you want to be activated try Daz loader or maybe Chew7

    If IR4 does work for you I suggest leaving the advanced settings for the rearm task as they are.

    Again just install IR4 at the time you want it rearm which should be a time your comp will be on

    So if you want it to rearm every 30 days at 12 am then just install it at 12 am

    Later
     
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    cannelle MDL Novice

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    "You know this doesn't activate your computer. It just lets you be in unlimited trial with a little interaction. That is all it does. If you want to be activated try Daz loader or maybe Chew7"
    Sorry that I was not clear enough.
    I know this will not activate the computer...
    I was simply reporting that BEFORE midnight WIndows was reporting 1 day to activate, and again the same '1 day' to activate' AFTER midnight. (this is not obviously the fault of IR4, which is working very well). .
    And I just wanted to help improving the process...
    So forget it...
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #1068 timesurfer, Aug 4, 2010
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    How did you want me to help you? I will if I can :)

    If it says 1 day left then in one day your task will run. Andi it must have been 29 days since you first installed this correct?

    We really tested all the advanced settings and found it's better to leave them the way they are. Feel free to do whatever you want but it's just this particular issue has been extensively tested
     
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    cannelle MDL Novice

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    Thanks

    I was not refering to IR4 but to Microsoft/Windows: The time left as reported by Microsoft did stay the same before and after Midnight. At first I just found this a bit strange and only wanted to report it.
    Then I though that maybe the time left is not based on whole calendar days, but the some Date AND Time (likely the exact date and time that IR4 was run),
    Now that let me think that maybe when the Rearm task will start, whatever the time of the day it is, it will have a full 24 hours before the the trial expires, which make it irrelevant the time the task execute.
    If so, then closed case... (whether the task is scheduled to start at 00:00 or not becomes irrelevant)

    Since we don't have the source anymore, this is pretty much pointless, because the desired modifications (if any) would have to be applied at each run of IR4 (something I want to avoid). I was looking namely for a way to handle efficiently PCs when they are asleep. I have 4 PCs and most are in sleep mode, most of the time. But, if you tested the available options, then I guess it is end of story...
     
  10. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Sure no problem


    Yes the way IR4 works is based on a 30 day process. You should have gotten message at end of install the said 4 rearms 30 days. If not then something is wrong and I'd try an reinstall to see what happens?

    I try to suggest people set the task to run when comp is on. However, if you want to set advanced setting to run task when awaken from sleep I suggest you try that to see if that works for you

    Basically a long time ago in a galaxy far far away we used to use an XML file to import all the settings we thought would be appropriate to use. However under certain circumstance we had problems using the XML so we ditched it and just went with a simple task that rearms inside windows

    Perhaps I could suggest being a tiny bit interactive as to how much time is left per rearm and just manually rearm when you need to. IR4 only takes minutes to install and that might work for you

    Lastly the only really troublesome advanced task setting was "run task as soon as possible as a schedule start is missed. It would initiate rearms when not expected and was not proper to set up for users

    Good luck and feel free to ask any questions you might have
     
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    master345 MDL Novice

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    New to the forums but I must say fantastic work on this!

    I have a few questions of course!

    1) What is the difference between Windows trial vs activated? In terms of advantages? And functionality?

    It seems with IR4 trial is just as good as activated as it takes nag screens away etc.

    Basically are trial users missing out on anything?

    2) I tried creating a new task in task scheduler but it says a task has already been created for rearm. I suppose IR4 does this for you but does this mean from earlier posts that:

    As long as my PC is ON at the rearm time and date everything will be OK for the 1st 150 days then I need to reinstall IR4?

    Can I not just press Rearm rather than uninstall and reinstall every 150 days? Unless i have read it wrong or the program only allows 4 rearms then to be reset for another 4!

    Also what happens if you rearm a day early?

    3) I ran Windows Genuine Tool and it said I wasn't genuine, is this because trial mode is not accepted as genuine?

    4) When the program is updated - how to update? Is it uninstall then reinstall?

    I personally am using this over other 'Loaders' because my Windows is untouched and for 30 days every month it is official (sort of)l!!
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #1072 timesurfer, Aug 8, 2010
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    I guess in trial there is never any worry about becoming deactivated...lol Same performance and functionality just slight interaction necessary with IR4

    I agree no nags is good. As close to real use as possible is the goal

    Not if they like slight interaction with win 7 use. e.g. rearm manually if comp is off and reinstall every 150 days

    Yea task gets created for you. If you wish to not have task just delete it and click rearm button every 30 days

    Yes that is correct

    Once installed duration lasts 150 days then reinstall. 1 rearm = 30 days

    Nothing just the task gets reset and into a new rearm duration you go :eek:...lol

    Never experienced no-genuine one time or heard of it ever. Did you use other solution prior?

    Just install again. No uninstall necessary but it is fun to uninstall...lol

    It's pretty close except for rearm reset and task being present. Also to eliminate nags slight reg setting must be made so not sure any solution is truly untouched?
     
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    master345 MDL Novice

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    thanks timesurfer you are a genius!

    Any ETA on an update?
    Or are you happy with it at the moment?

    Yes I used Chew before so this must be the non genuine issue! You obviously recommend using IR4 on a fresh install!

    When I first installed IR4 and got Recovery (even tho i read instructions) it was pretty scary!! I was praying my Windows would boot! So anyone new reading this forum - IR4 is 100% Cool and working.
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Nah we're done...lol

    Clean install is always a good idea

    sfc /scannow as admin in cmd prompt and after if it fixes anything then try to revalidate only with IR4 you don't need to ever go online to dl the WAT for any reason!

    Yes IR4 doesn't modify the bootsect or any system files so it's really the safest solution however most nowadays are pretty safe also
     
  15. SvenP

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    IR4 3.1 is downright brilliant, but I experience one wee inconvenience. All administration of my server (2008 R2), on which I am testing IR4, is done remotely with Remote Desktop Connection. When I try to run IR4 remotely then the Remote Desktop Connection disconnects. Can this inconvenience be overcome?
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    It's because in RE you can't control the computer because the net dissapears
     
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    SvenP MDL Junior Member

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    Yes, that is well understood. My question is if this inconvenience could be overcome in a future version of IR4, i.e. if the 5 steps could be programmed to execute without any operator intervention after one single operator command.
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Dude we have that script which utilizes DISM and takes like 10 min to complete. You'd have to ask MD for permission to use that code or get a custom fully automatic IR4
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Actually I have that .bat file but MD will have to give permission and also not sure I have the final working version and if this isn't correct it will totally mess your comp so wait for MD...lol
     
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    SvenP MDL Junior Member

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    Thank you very much for your kind advice. I have now written MD and asked for assistance/permission. I do however think that a solution would be of general interest; I cannot imagine that I am the only IR4 enthusiast in the world who has suffered this wee inconvenience.