Is This True -- Even After Tweaking & Blocking !!! :(

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by GodfatherX64, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. GodfatherX64

    GodfatherX64 MDL Novice

    May 13, 2013
    5
    0
    0
    Hi , i found an article 10 min ago

    Windows10 "Privacy" !!

    thehackernews.com/2016/02/microsoft-windows10-privacy.html

    is this true , even after blocking , tweaking , scripts ??

    im just talking with you guys

    if it's true , i think Linux or (windows 7 w/o updates :D) is a good choice

    but i use RSAT for AD , GPO , etc. on my laptop all the time at work

    what should i do??

    may be i should install it on a different machine or a vm inside my laptop , right??

    what is your opinions , and if there is a true solution for telemetry please point me at it

    thanks
     
  2. lobo11

    lobo11 TOMAHAWK CHOP

    Feb 16, 2012
    6,539
    4,989
    210
    I doubt you will be able to stop all telemetry:D
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. GodfatherX64

    GodfatherX64 MDL Novice

    May 13, 2013
    5
    0
    0
    so we should surrender to the fact that no one can do anything about it :(

    and about Linux , you just need to update your Kernel to 4.4.1 or 4.5 i think
     
  4. hb860

    hb860 MDL Addicted

    May 7, 2010
    996
    1,808
    30
    Better to stay with 4.1.
    4.3+ has issues
    /* Arch Linux user with 4.4.1-2 here */
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. potjevleesch

    potjevleesch MDL Addicted

    Aug 7, 2010
    814
    69
    30
    imo Ms wil allways outfox us users: they have the knowledge, the dough and supremacy
     
  6. pisthai

    pisthai Imperfect Human

    Jul 29, 2009
    6,857
    2,029
    210
    There's only one way to get that solved: use a external Hardware Firewall, which could, or even should be a extra Computer with Linux OS, multiple NIC's (min. 2), a Apps like Smoothwall Express or PFSense (which are both very extended Firewall's and even more, and also are Freeware), placed between your Modem (or Modem-Router), Router and Network-Switch! And that's just the very beginning and most easy part of the whole process!

    After done that, you will need a lot of time for to setup that Software, while the Basic Configuration, is just the smallest part! What will need time, is to create all the needed Rules with all needed Data. On the End of the Day, it's a never ending process! It's not just to create the incoming and outgoing Rules, you'll also have to limit the connection on several ways, include IP's, Mac Addresses and more! Even you may be get all data in after some days, more likely after several weeks(!!), you also need to log any single connection in and out and control them minimum once every day!

    Do you think you could handle that? Think more than once or even twice!! The days from the past, as the first AV software was created in app. 1987 by B.Fix, are long over and that were not for the PC, it was for the Atari Computer and then the first Apple's!

    The trend today goes in the way as it was shown on the Movie 1984!!
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. michaelmyers

    michaelmyers MDL Member

    May 28, 2015
    109
    29
    10
    #8 michaelmyers, Feb 10, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 10, 2016
    Anywhere in that article does it show any proof at all that the data they get through telemetry is in fact your personal data? Stuff like personal documents, videos, music, video?

    Oh it doesn't? Zero proof at all?

    Then what are you soo paranoid about? Honest question

    I want to see hard proof. Actual freaking evidence they are taking personal data and storing it. Not some moron who disables stuff and gets confused when apps try to reconnect multiple times through multiple servers because it thinks a specific server may be down so it tries another one.

    I suspect I'll be waiting a very long time
     
  8. kuroda

    kuroda MDL Senior Member

    Aug 25, 2012
    398
    30
    10
    ....Why the people do not accept things as they are?... humans... like to complicate things ...:tasty:
     
  9. SiXXGuNNZ

    SiXXGuNNZ MDL Novice

    Aug 12, 2012
    8
    9
    0
    time to throw out your phones now also
     
  10. GodfatherX64

    GodfatherX64 MDL Novice

    May 13, 2013
    5
    0
    0
    What a Nightmare :fear2:
     
  11. GodfatherX64

    GodfatherX64 MDL Novice

    May 13, 2013
    5
    0
    0
    what makes me annoyed is that they didn't say what data they are collecting

    the company i work at (an Egyptian Oil Company) has an offer to upgrade our servers from 2003 & 2008 to 2012 R2 for free
    so my boss wants to also upgrade from win 7 to 10

    his personality is more paranoid than mine
    so should i tell him about telemetry

    and what if he tell me to find a solution but must to upgrade the machines??
     
  12. Garbellano

    Garbellano MDL Addicted

    Aug 13, 2012
    948
    246
    30
  13. potjevleesch

    potjevleesch MDL Addicted

    Aug 7, 2010
    814
    69
    30
    long live George Orwell !
     
  14. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

    Oct 25, 2015
    1,098
    370
    60
    The buzz word is metadata.
    In theory, if part of that metadata contains the file hashes, "they" ( there is that word again ) do have the computing resources to recreate the file.
    ( Just look at NSA's Utah facility, and that is public knowledge. Now just try to imagine what "they" have at secret facilities, and yes, those do exist. )

    It all boils down to trust.

    Do I trust a geeky 20 or 30 something year old Bill Gates ?
    Absolutely.

    Do I trust his replacement at Micro$oft, or any government agencies with this so called metadata ?
    Absolutely not... Not in today's world.

    In that respect Bin Forgotten has accomplished his mission, after all he attacked the US because, and I quote then president Bush, "He hates our freedoms."
    This is simply another example of how those freedoms are being eroded little by little.
    It is people like yourself michaelmyers that are not only allowing, but encouraging the powers that be to continue down the path they are on.
    Someday you will regret it, but not until "they" come after you.
     
  15. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

    Oct 25, 2015
    1,098
    370
    60
    All I can say is good Luck. lol
     
  16. WaltC

    WaltC MDL Addicted

    Mar 8, 2014
    518
    123
    30


    These guys don't need anything in the way of proof since the accusation they consider proof enough...;) The Internet is crammed full of conspiracy theorists who never fail in finding some new crisis to fear...! It's funny, but it's also...yawn...very boring, too.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  17. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

    Oct 25, 2015
    1,098
    370
    60
    Yup.
    To you the William Binney's, Thomas Drake's, J. Kirk Wiebe's, Edward Snowden's, etc. etc. are extremely boring.
    That simply tells me that you are not capable mentally of realizing the implications of what they are trying to say.
    It is sad really.
    Out of curiosity, Walt do you suffer from ADHD as well ?
     
  18. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

    Sep 5, 2013
    3,276
    1,731
    120
    MS only spies on the paranoid, and the conspiracy theorists. For all others it is useful telemetry.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. JFKI

    JFKI MDL Expert

    Oct 25, 2015
    1,098
    370
    60
    #20 JFKI, Feb 10, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2016