laptop won't boot windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows 10' started by lynchknot, Jun 20, 2026.

  1. hoak

    hoak MDL Addicted

    Nov 13, 2009
    721
    2,008
    30
    #81 hoak, Jul 16, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2026
  2. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    #82 lynchknot, Jul 16, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2026
    (OP)
    I thought just booting off the USB and installing was a clean install. Nothing was saved but what is listed in C. no other files or programs were saved. lol a 443GB clean install!! where are all those files?

    win10ioT.jpg
     
  3. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    I forgot stuff. Usually when installing something on a disk, it gets formatted and warns you. Apparently not with the HD. Too bad this isn't a "clean" install because it's running well. I'm not finding anything not working but it is using much more than twice the space of a normal, clean install,
     
  4. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream
    Staff Member

    Dec 21, 2012
    8,256
    10,607
    270
    If you do not delete all partitions before starting the process, it will move the existing install into Windows.old. Setup won't delete anything by itself, MS would never do that.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  5. CaptainKirk1966

    CaptainKirk1966 One of the Green Guys
    Staff Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    2,982
    2,014
    90
    @Carlos Detweiller

    When he boots, he claims he sees an option to choose windows 10 or 11, which sounds like they live in different partitions on the same disk. (Or maybe different disks.) Would not the windows.old folder be a new installation over top a previous installation on an existing partition? To quote @hoak - what we have here is rats nest confusion.
     
  6. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream
    Staff Member

    Dec 21, 2012
    8,256
    10,607
    270
    The choice might be remnants of old BCD entries, possibly not all point to valid installations. Wiping the disk clean and start fresh is the only way of getting out of this.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  7. hoak

    hoak MDL Addicted

    Nov 13, 2009
    721
    2,008
    30
    Again, you have partition table corruption, the only way out is to use DISKPART to wipe the disk, and let the Windows SKU you want write all the formatting data anew when it installs. The good news is if you like how it's performing it will perform even better done right, there are also a ton of post install tweaks and tips on these forums that will get you even more performance.
     
  8. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    #88 lynchknot, Jul 17, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2026
    (OP)
    ok used diskpart to clean and installing now. edit - wow, how did that happen so fast. it's already installed in minutes? already past the keyboard selection
     
  9. hoak

    hoak MDL Addicted

    Nov 13, 2009
    721
    2,008
    30
    #89 hoak, Jul 17, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2026
    Sounds like you might be finally there -- that's how it should be... As well most OEM Windows installs grossly underperform, so everything should be faster. As long as DISKPART was run correctly and truly wiped everything, and if nothing critical is physically broken -- you should be home free now...

    You can get cheap replacements for most laptop keyboards on AliExpress, and in many cases they're not too hard to install -- there are videos online for many popular laptops even have repair videos online that include replacing the keyboard.
     
  10. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    #90 lynchknot, Jul 17, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2026
    (OP)
    I'm not really concerned about the forward arrow not functioning. I really hate having to configure settings for everything and my cameras and program installs. It's going to take a week or more to put everything back.

    *edit - this enterprise does not support KMS. Do I use windows loader then?

    Thank you and everyone else for helping and comments. I really appreciate it.
     
  11. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
  12. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    yes, I tried all of them in powershell edit - I tried 3 times. the second time it said version 3.12 is outdated. the 3rd time it worked. Thanks for your help
     
  13. CaptainKirk1966

    CaptainKirk1966 One of the Green Guys
    Staff Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    2,982
    2,014
    90
    Not sure what you did, what you installed, or what you did after installation, but something is seriously broken if you can't activate with the massgrave hwid, tsforge, options, 1 or 3 when you see the screen below. Or even online kms.


    upload_2026-7-17_11-10-58.png
     
  14. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    It's activated. For reasons I don't know powershell kept throwing up errors for those links and even said 3.14 was outdated. After a few tries it worked.
     
  15. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    I tried it again and here are the same errors I got the first time

    e errors.jpg
     
  16. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

    Sep 6, 2011
    3,935
    3,224
    120
    Disable temporary your antivirus and firewall ( if you use others than built in from windows )
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  17. lynchknot

    lynchknot MDL Member

    Jun 12, 2013
    153
    10
    10
    I haven't downloaded or installed any security software yet.
     
  18. pm67310

    pm67310 MDL Guru

    Sep 6, 2011
    3,935
    3,224
    120
    Try on massgrave download script for offline use and run
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...