MagiskSU Is No Longer Maintenanced⚠️

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  1. NST_Adventure

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    #1 NST_Adventure, May 21, 2021
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    Magisk Finally Reach EOL V23 is last version of magisk

    ⚠️Topjohwu confirmed that he no longer maintenance the magisk⚠️


    ⚠️FAQ⚠️

    1. If magisk really dead what happend to root technology in the future?

    -IMO there is only 3 possibly things happen if we not fallback to supersu then magisk will developed by someone else or root will gone forever

    2. is there any root alternative or solution for now?
    -Sadly there is no good enough alternative for root (ADB is alternative but ADB not provide same functionality like root either SuperSU or MagiskSU)

    Conclusion:
    For now we can do absolutely nothing regarding to root access

    either MagiskSU and SuperSU already dead reaching the EOL


    my advise for non root devices is use ADB for tweak android devices also i will try to post non root method to tweak your android devices

    i know ADB does not provide enough functionality as root does but ADB is our last hope for now sadly

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  2. iota

    iota MDL Junior Member

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    is magisk dead, both yes and no. it's partially irrelevant because being open source, so, someone else could continue. still you might be missing bigger point.

    android is basically controlled by google. where apple abuses freebsd to create ios, then google abuses linux to create android. some users may have illusion or delusion that android is open because core o.s. is open source. android development is controlled by google. android is too much interconnected to google services. many android components are closed like, google play services. bootloader on oem devices is usually locked, it usually means that modifications are difficult.

    short version: android is dead for me, even it's based on linux, it does not have linux philosophy in it.
     
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    MOOOOOOOOMMMYYYYYYYY!
     
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  4. NST_Adventure

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    any alternative?

    Interesting........from where you get the references?

    Indeed GAPPS are close source if you look on my thread on Android section I also post GAPPS alternative

    thread updated
    please read again @iota

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  5. DNA_Uncut

    DNA_Uncut MDL Novice

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    The same was happened to xposed, some one took over now we see edxposed. the same was happened for cyanogen, lineage was born. Same would happen to Magisk too, wait for few weeks
     
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    #7 NST_Adventure, Jun 11, 2021
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    bro xposed already ded? nice i already guessing this but i can't confirm

    what is that mean?

    EXPosed still alive not dead right?

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  7. DNA_Uncut

    DNA_Uncut MDL Novice

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    Yes, Xposed was dead long ago (andriod 8) Edxposed is the successor and it is alive and available up to andriod 11. LSPosed xposed frame work is an alternative for Edxposed which is also available for andriod 12.. Most of the xposed modules work in both EdXposed & LSPosed xposed framework
     
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    @iota what if i use custom rom? do android still dead there?

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  10. iota

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    postmarketos is based on gnu/linux distribution, meaning, it is not android. it is root by default or sudo. i don't see any reason for magisk or edxposed, because root scripts can run directly. magisk and edxposed requires android u.i. and most likely android kernel, so they don't work anyway.

    android emulator is possible on postmarketos, but i don't think many users want to run android apps on gnu/linux.

    privacy is far superior to ios and android. unless it's de-googled android then comparison might be complicated.

    postmarketos is a operating system, not a device. devices may run ...something. is the question actually: if a device can run postmarketos or customized android, i would pick postmarketos, assuming almost full hardware support.
     
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    #12 NST_Adventure, Jun 12, 2021
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    @iota do you think is ok for privacy while using custom rom such as LOS?
    android isn't dead for custom rom right?

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  12. iota

    iota MDL Junior Member

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    by LOS, you probably mean lineageos.
    as of now, maybe so. still de-googling or finding suitable custom rom is annoying. adding bootloader stuff as well.

    still, i'm pessimistic about future of android. it will be google's "ios". in a longer run, i think customizations will become difficult.
     
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    well unfortunately too is not possible to replace or at least modify bootloader
    try to do=immediate hardbrick :(

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  14. MrRexio

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    C'mon guys we can't let big companies win this one right?

    I remember when back on the day we laughed at Microsoft effort of making windows xp unpirateable (not that I'm fomenting piracy but sometimes stuff works better on with custom scripts for example here in the windows forum people are making win10 completely private)

    Even we had a guy called 'SuicideSolution' , thats was the spirit!.

    Haha ! jokes aside I'm dealing right now with a Xiaomi MIUI device and it ask for data even for the calculator. Not trying to use a Custom ROM yet so Magisk isn't a thing for me .. but yea I understand how hard it is right now to de-google a stock ROM.
     
  15. DNA_Uncut

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    You people worrying too much, Been using custom rom from the htc days. The custom rom community is very much alive for most of the popular phones not older than 3 - 5 yrs. You just need to unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery & custom rom of your choice. Lineage is most stable custom rom available right now. Rooting is different, You may skip that if u believe magisk is dying
     
  16. iota

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    you have point there. i was supposed to say unlocking the bootloader. which is possible with some devices and some devices have some catches with it. bootloader itself is what it is.

    are we going to let big companies win! no, but i don't think is going happen using google's android platform. my vague guess is within 2 years, android modifications becomes almost unbearable to make. ios is totally controlled by apple, from bootloader to apps. google is heading similar direction.
     
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    @MrRexio
    at this point android lose it's privacy due to google pre installed apps and tracker are everywhere i recommend you move to ios or custom rom or linux os

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    ios is totally illusional and delusional choice. apple controls everything in ios. it's up to apple how data is used and users do not have even opt-out option. in apple's devices user have zero control, almost on anything.
     
  19. Joel213

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    Have you got a source for Magisk not being continued? Nowhere on John's Twitter or GitHub does he mention that he is stopping development. All he has stated is that as of V22.0 Magisk does not target anything lower than Android 5.0.