Might be a little off topic....

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  1. JFKI

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    :)

    So tell me Joe, Who killed John O'Neill ?
     
  2. Joe C

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    What's your point JFKI?
     
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  3. JFKI

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    You are not the only one who can mix fact with conjecture and declare it truth.
    Others can and have actually done it far better. ;)

    What did you find wrong with that vid ?
     
  4. Joe C

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    Do you honestly think I'm going to waste 1:40:00 of my time watching something I really do not have that much interest in?
     
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  5. JFKI

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    Frankly no Joe, I don't.
    You already "know" everything Joe. :rolleyes:

    Actually what I do find interesting is all the posts in this thread which you created since you just admitted that you "really do not have that much interest in" the topic.
     
  6. Joe C

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    #66 Joe C, Feb 1, 2017
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    I appreciate you giving me so much credit of knowledge, but it's honestly just my opinion. If you do not like my opinion or disagree then great! but no need to be condescending.
    I took another look at this entire thread JFKI, and it seems to me that you were asking me to answer questions about comments that I never made, and there even a couple things that I did not disagree with you. I can understand the hate from some peeps here about my view of the travel restrictions, I still believe it's not going to be that big of a deal in the long run
     
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  7. gorski

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    #67 gorski, Feb 1, 2017
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    ...and so on and on...

    Complete ignorance of Arabic etc. societies is no defence and no justification for repeating/regurgitating and spreading this vile right-wing propaganda nonsense!!!

    Muslims (Arabs or not, it matters not in this regard) differ wildly, from various interpretations of their religion to their interpretation of their states or societies, science and onwards. As in any other country. Unlike you, they do not have this nonsensical idea of their "homogeneity" because they know of deep divisions in all spheres of their states/societies/religion etc. Every other day some Muslim fanatic kills who knows how many other Muslims, to begin with.

    Essentially, this is not dissimilar to Breivik or McVeigh or Karadzic or... It's not like "we" don't have our "fundamentalists". But whereas "we" managed with secularism, a number of countries with majority Muslim population there still need to do it. And many there do know it and are working on it, fighting for it, being threatened every day of their lives.

    So, for you to even deny their existence, in your blissful and high-minded, patronising effort, I might add, is highly insulting!!!
     
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  8. ThomasMann

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    No...

    No one would actually think that you, like so man others here, would spend any time at all on anything that might differ from simply comfirming any believe you already have.
     
  9. gorski

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    #69 gorski, Feb 1, 2017
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    Thommy, my dear old professor, I wouldn't put pass you the very same conservative idea... :rolleyes:

    Here's a few more, for good measure:







     
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  10. Joe C

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    #70 Joe C, Feb 1, 2017
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    Sorry you feel insulted. I watched these vids you posted.
    First vid was Ibrahim Al-Buleihi. I did little research and found that Ibrahim is a politician and a philosopher. He has very good view on how to reform Arab civilization and bring it into today, This was dated on 2/21/2010

    Second vid was Nasser Dashti. There's not much on him other than he is a Kuwaiti activists His name is on an online list between two deceased activists. I saw mostly was a debate between him and other Arab Moslms that I did not look up but it was clear that they wanted to enforce Sharia law without question. They stated that they has a disregard for Nasser
    dated; 6/11/2016

    Third vid Abd Al-Hamid Al-Ansari. Dean of the University of Qatar and head of the Islamic Law dept. Personally he strikes me as a very intelligent person. He stated that he wants to change Islamic society to be more productive. AL-Hamid is listed as an Arab reformists and he did condemn terrorists acts dated; 6/26/2007

    They were all interesting vids, except one thing that I did notice, None of these men are Islamic Imams, or Clerics. If I am wrong or mistaken then please point that out to me
    Thank you for your effort gorski, you did provide one Muslim leader that did condemn terrorists acts in 2007 although i'm not sure if you can consider this man an actual leader
     
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  11. gorski

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    #71 gorski, Feb 1, 2017
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    Jezzzzuuussss!!!!! It is insulting to them, whose existence you are unaware of and then - without checking - you regurgitate the right wing propaganda...

    Never mind...

    Here (EDITED!):



    P.S. He is a cleric...

     
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  12. JFKI

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    You believe what you want Joe.
    I really do not care.
    You are simply not worth it.

    P.S. There is a BIG difference between being condescending and telling it like it is.

    Now excuse me while I "waste" another hour and forty. ;)
     
  13. Joe C

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    Good to see someone speaking out against terrorism on American soil
     
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  14. Joe C

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    Whatever trips your trigger
     
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  15. gorski

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    Was that an inkling of a skirmish of an apology, Joe?
     
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  16. JFKI

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    :laie:

    Gorski you :jester:
     
  17. Joe C

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    I watched your video and you can take it anyway you wish
     
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  18. gorski

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    My condolences....

    (MY video? Ahem...)
     
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  19. Joe C

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    #79 Joe C, Feb 2, 2017
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    No need for condolences, I saw your video and made my own conclusion from it and you made yours.
     
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  20. gorski

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    Aha, and what might those be?
     
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