1. BruhBen

    BruhBen MDL Novice

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  2. levidos

    levidos MDL Novice

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    Why isn't the MSMG toolkit open source?
     
  3. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    To prevent it from becoming a paid tool that someone else sells.

    MSMG isn't hiring a team of lawyers to protect their IP.
     
  4. kyrcy

    kyrcy MDL Senior Member

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    "ToolKit cannot service Windows 10/11 Source OS on Windows 7 HOST OS...

    ToolKit requires a Windows 8.1/10 HOST OS for servicing Windows 10/11 Source OS..."

    Any way around this?
     
  5. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    Open source? Isnt it a few batch files?

    Why is it closed source? *
     
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  6. xCyBx

    xCyBx MDL Senior Member

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    The secret in ToolkitHelper.exe In Bin folder
     
  7. 正义羊

    正义羊 MDL Senior Member

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    @MSMG , In Toolkit 12.0 lines 2259 to 2266:
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the HOST OS is Windows 7 and selected Source OS is Windows 10/11
    if "%HostVersion%" equ "6.1" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w7" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w81" (
        echo.
        echo.ToolKit cannot service Windows 10/11 Source OS on Windows 7 HOST OS...
        echo.
        echo.ToolKit requires a Windows 8.1/10 HOST OS for servicing Windows 10/11 Source OS...
        goto :Stop
    )

    it should be:
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the HOST OS is Windows 7 and selected Source OS is Windows 10/11
    if "%HostVersion%" equ "6.1" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w7" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w81" (
        echo.
        echo.ToolKit cannot service Windows 10/11 Source OS on Windows 7 HOST OS...
        echo.
        echo.ToolKit requires a Windows 8.1/10/11 HOST OS for servicing Windows 10/11 Source OS...
        goto :Stop
    )
    This issue was found by @kyrcy first.
     
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  8. Dark Vador

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    It's open source you don't know how to get files :D
     
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  9. tcntad

    tcntad MDL Guru

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    The secret to why Im asking is I havent used it in years and never fully
     
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  10. BraneStawm

    BraneStawm MDL Novice

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    I've been 'playing' with MSMGtoolkit for a few weeks to get familiar with it, but now I want to create an install iso for real. Is there a post/posts in this thread which will tell me what to delete from an original Win10 LTSC 2021 iso, so that I can remove Windows defender and as much telemetry as possible.

    I'm also interested in the offline iso hive tweaks that Freddie-o has posted on this forum, Can someone explain the difference between freddie-o's offline reg tweaks and using MSMGtoolkit

    Thank's in advance
     
  11. freddie-o's offline reg tweaks : only does the reg tweaks to disable as much telemetry from offline image as much a user can : {according to me its good to go with}

    MSMG toolkit : removes actual compoenent packages which are used by M$ for telemetry purpose plus debloat via removing metro apps { windows apps } & inbox apps { system apps } as much as a user can on offline image plus plus add some reg tweaks for well user GUI experience plus enable photoviewer on offline image too via some more registry tweaks.

    its a complete open source offline image debloater as being scripting code with toolkit inside bin directory executed via nsudo known to run anything with trusted installer rights.
     
  12. BraneStawm

    BraneStawm MDL Novice

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    Many thanks for the reply.
    Can you tell me if it's OK to run both of these programs on an ISO and if so Which should be done first, I'm guessing freddie-o's scripts come after MSMGToolkit.
     
  13. Bira

    Bira MDL Senior Member

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    Does anyone know this code to see if the state is active or not? for updates

    Code:
    %DismRoot% /Image:"%~1" /Get-Packages /PackageName:"%%x" | findstr /c:"State : Installed" >nul
     
  14. yes you can go as per your thought.
    everything shared on MDL by experts is properly tested & working.
     
  15. tweekr1

    tweekr1 MDL Novice

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    Using MSMG Toolkit V11.3 and following a tutorial. The "remove" menu should have 3 options but I am only seeing 2 options. I am missing the first option "remove window components". I put the program in C:\MSMG - no spaces in pathname. I unzipped my ISO and put it in the DVD directory. Its mounts with no problems.
    Target ISO: Windows 8.1
    Host OS: Windows 7
    .NET: V4.8
    Thanks for any help!
     
  16. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    I need a bit of help. I W10UI'd my regular 19041.1 base to get 19044.1566(usual updates from the update overview). Here's what I removed with MSMG Toolkit:
    Code:
    ===============================================================================
                     Remove Internet Components Menu
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      Edge Chromium Browser
     
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                     Remove Multimedia Components Menu
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      First Logon Animation
      Game Explorer | Needed for: Microsoft Games
      Speech Recognition | Needed for: Cortana, Ease of Access
      Windows System Assessment Tool
     
    ===============================================================================
                      Remove Privacy Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
       Assigned Access
       Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP)
       Face Recognition
       Kernel Debugging | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
       Location Service
       Picture Password
       Pin SignIn Support
       Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
       WiFi Network Manager (WiFi Sense)
       Windows Error Reporting
       Windows Insider Hub
     
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                      Remove Remoting Components Menu
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      Home Group
      MultiPoint Connector
      Remote Assistance
     
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                      Remove System Components Menu
    ===============================================================================
       Device Lockdown (Embedded Experience)
       Ease of Access Themes
       Easy Transfer
       File History
       Security Center | Depends on: Windows Defender
       Steps Recorder
       Windows Firewall
       Windows Subsystem For Linux
       Windows To Go
       Wordpad
     
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                      Remove System Apps Menu
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       Async Text Service
       Windows Hello Setup
       Calling Shell App
       Capture Picker
       Camera Barcode Scanner
       Credential Dialog Host
       Edge Classic Browser
       Edge Developer Tools Client | Depends on: Edge Classic Browser
       Eye Control App | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
       File Explorer App
       Lockscreen App
       Map Control
       Narrator QuickStart
       OneDrive Desktop Client
       OOBE Network Captive Portal
       OOBE Network Connection Flow
       Parental Controls
       People Bar
       Quick Assist App
       Retail Demo Content
       Setting Sync
       Skype ORTC
       Smart Screen
       Take Test App
       Windows Defender App
       Windows Mixed Reality
       Windows Reader (PDF) | Depends on: Edge Classic Browser
       Modern External GPU Eject App (XGpuEjectDialog)
     
     ===============================================================================
                      Remove Windows Apps Menu
    ===============================================================================
       3D Viewer | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
       Advertising Xaml
       Alarms & Clock
       Camera
       Cortana | Depends on: Speech Recognition
       Desktop App Installer
       Feedback Hub
       Get Help
       Groove Music
       Maps | Depends on: Map Control
       Microsoft Pay
       Mixed Reality Portal | Depends on: Windows Mixed Reality
       Films & TV
       My Office
       OneNote
       Paint 3D
       People | Depends on: People Bar
       Photos
       Skype
       Solitaire Collection | Depends on: Xbox Live
       Sticky Notes | Depends on: Services Store Engagement
       Tips
       Voice Recorder
       Weather | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
       Windows Mail | Depends on: Advertising Xaml
       Your Phone
    Besides the removed stuff, I have used the hide taskbar shortcuts, disable auto driver updates, disable auto upgrade and enable photo viewer.

    My issue is that now Win+Shift+S doesn't work for snipping. I have both snipping tool and snip&sketch. The shortcut doesn't do anything. Neither does opening snip&sketch and pressing New. Snipping tool itself works. I've already tried resetting the app itself and after that re-installing it.
    What am I doing wrong?
     
  17. Peacemuser

    Peacemuser MDL Novice

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    What exactly is the difference between integrating updates and integrating WHD update packs? All I can understand is that WHD's are for cumulative or service packs. Do they both accept .msu and .cab formats? I would also like to know what WHD exactly means.
     
  18. Full Form of WHD : Windows Hotfix Downloader if i am not wrong cuz i think it best suits WHD.

    I never used WHD but W10UI by abbodi1406 did a flawless job for updating base iso to latest always
     
  19. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    Nope...
    The one noticeable thing is that I don't have snip&sketch in my Settings > System > Notifications & actions section. Apart from that, I'm still clueless.