1. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Someone who is using w11 with "Cortana" removed and "Windows Search" present. Can you tell me if "Windows Search" works correctly?
     
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    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    Yes!
    in both W10 and W11
    I have to specify that I used for W10 Toolkit 11.7 and for W11 Toolkit 11.9
     
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    #22384 inTerActionVRI, Apr 3, 2022
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    Someone who is using w11 with cortana removed. Can you tell me if Windows Search works correctly?
    This is for empty start Menu.
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Start]
    "ConfigureStartPins"="{ \"pinnedList\": [ {  } ] }"
    "ConfigureStartPins_ProviderSet"=dword:00000000
    
    I have tried inserting some program, but it didn't work properly.
    It seems to release the bid pinouts.

    But it would look like this:

    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Start]
    "ConfigureStartPins"="{ \"pinnedList\": [ { \"desktopAppId\": \"Explorer\" }, { \"desktopAppId\": \"IExplorer\" }, { \"desktopAppId\": \"MSEdge\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Amazon.comServicesLLC.AmazonAppstore_bvztej1py64t8!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"MicrosoftCorporationII.WindowsSubsystemForAndroid_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"MicrosoftCorporationII.WindowsSubsystemForLinux_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" } ] }"
    "ConfigureStartPins_ProviderSet"=dword:00000000
    
    Note that the program types are defined differently, for Desktop and UWP apps.

    What you want must be so:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Start]
    "ConfigureStartPins"="{ \"pinnedList\": [ { \"desktopAppId\": \"Explorer\" }, { \"desktopAppId\": \"MSEdge\" }, { \"desktopAppId\": \"EdgeChromium\" }, { \"packagedAppId\": \"Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe!App\" } ] }"
    "ConfigureStartPins_ProviderSet"=dword:00000000
    [/code]

    For new additions, just keep posting:
    Code:
    , {\"desktopAppId\": \"Name of your program\"}
    
    or
    Code:
    , {\"packagedAppId\": \"Name of your program!App\"}
    
    And finally, test.

    When I tested it, it didn't work, because I had added things that were not present in the ISO, and then I didn't test it again. I've been leaving it empty, even though it's working well, I end up putting in what I need manually.

    A few years ago when the empty mode didn't work, I would leave it empty for a few days, and those suggestions would disappear. I'm guessing two things there:
    1. there must be a telemetry there. It verifies that there is no interest in those apps and removes the suggestions.
    2. there must be a post-installation timer for these suggestions.

    The sure thing is that they are only installed when clicked.

    But I'm going to do a test now and I'm going to take the time to check that out too.


    Note:
    Access Settings by Right Click in Start Menu


    EDITED: For new additions, just keep posting:
     
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    Look again. I have corrected the examples.
     
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    I have tested, and I am here to tell you, that adding the programs via reg, currently, does no more good.

    But this empty tweak that is available in the toolkit and custom toolkit, still works by blocking the suggestions.
    Code:
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
    
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\PolicyManager\current\device\Start]
    "ConfigureStartPins"="{ \"pinnedList\": [ {  } ] }"
    "ConfigureStartPins_ProviderSet"=dword:00000000
    

    It is quite simple. As you modify by adding, removing or reordering icons, start.bin is instantly overwritten.
    Just change and copy the modified file somewhere you like.

    So before I make any new tests, I have already customized some start.bin files.

    Note: I just finished a test. So, regarding this start.bin file solution, I could see that when I finish the installation, it is not there. It takes a while to appear.
    I still have to make an iso integrating the extracted start.bin file with the shortcuts to (File Explorer, IExplorer, Edge, MS Store and Terminal), to do this test.
    As soon as I have positive results I will post a new Custom Toolkit.
     
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    Thank you
    For my iso Lite I entered Settings and File Explorer.
    I have carried out tests, with cumulative update, no other icons are inserted, such as Disney, AmazonVideo.PrimeVideo, Spotify, etc ..
    Why the start.bin file is not overwritten.
     
  9. inTerActionVRI

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    The start.bin file is overwritten only by manual change, when we made the changes to the pinned shortcuts ourselves.

    Here, after the clean installation, the "%LocalAppdata%\PackagesMicrosoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState" folder, remained empty and the start.bin only appeared after about 40 minutes. I don't know why this happens, only the assumptions I made earlier.

    The test I will do is adding it to the Default User folder. But I think it will only work through setupcomplete.cmd or firstlogon.cmd.
     
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    With 22h2 u get rid off of most bloat by download uudump with thick just edition and no othee option ... after with winget remove edge ... and do some registry ...


    When u thick just version and no other option u get iso without defender , appx and other crap

    If someone helps
     
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    Thath info for own get it
     
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    OOSU10,ThisIsWin11,WindowsSpyBlocker,Tweaks by own registry (ByOwnPreferences -Disable LUA ... and everthink else u want ...)
     
  13. inTerActionVRI

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    You can try to remove them via DISM List.

    Add in ".\bin\Lists\RemoveAppsList.txt"
    check the template lists in ".\bin\Lists"

    Use the Remove Menu --> Remove Windows Apps Using Apps List
     
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    #22396 inTerActionVRI, Apr 5, 2022
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    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Yes, the remove menu offers the option according to the build being serviced. For this build and edition that you are working with, the Remove Menu shows only these two options.

    Let's do it differently:
    I'll tell you which lines you change in the toolkit.cmd, so that this option is released.

    Then you can try this option as a last resort.
    I don't use LTSC, so those who have more experience with it can give us some tips.

    remove this code blocks:
    code block 1 to remove
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 Enterprise 2019/2021 LTSC Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" equ "w10" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "19044" if "%ImageFlag%" equ "EnterpriseS" (
       echo.  [1]   Remove Windows Components
       echo.
       echo.  [2]   Remove Windows Components Using Package List
       echo.
       echo.
       echo.
       echo.
    )
    
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 Enterprise N 2019/2021 LTSC Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" equ "w10" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "19044" if "%ImageFlag%" equ "EnterpriseSN" (
       echo.  [1]   Remove Windows Components
       echo.
       echo.  [2]   Remove Windows Components Using Package List
       echo.
       echo.
       echo.
       echo.
    )
    
    code block 2 to remove
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 Enterprise 2019/2021 LTSC Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" equ "w10" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "19044" if "%ImageFlag%" equ "EnterpriseS" (
       choice /C:12X /N /M "Enter Your Choice : "
       if errorlevel 3 goto :MainMenu
       if errorlevel 2 goto :RemoveWindowsComponentsList
       if errorlevel 1 goto :RemoveWindowsComponentsMenu
    )
    
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 Enterprise N 2019/2021 LTSC Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" equ "w10" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "19044" if "%ImageFlag%" equ "EnterpriseSN" (
       choice /C:12X /N /M "Enter Your Choice : "
       if errorlevel 3 goto :MainMenu
       if errorlevel 2 goto :RemoveWindowsComponentsList
       if errorlevel 1 goto :RemoveWindowsComponentsMenu
    )
    

    and replace all these below lines (these are repeated twice in the :RemoveMenu code session):
    from
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 v1809/v1903/v1909/v2004/v20H2/v21H1/v21H2, Windows 11 v21H2 Client Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w7" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w81" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "22000" if "%ImageInstallationType%" equ "Client" if "%ImageFlag%" neq "EnterpriseS" if "%ImageFlag%" neq "EnterpriseSN" (
    
    to
    Code:
    :: Checking whether the selected Source OS is a Windows 10 v1809/v1903/v1909/v2004/v20H2/v21H1/v21H2, Windows 11 v21H2 Client Edition
    if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w7" if "%SelectedSourceOS%" neq "w81" if "%ImageBuild%" geq "17763" if "%ImageBuild%" leq "22000" if "%ImageInstallationType%" equ "Client" (
    


    This will release all options for any ltsc build equal to or above 17763.
     
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    #22400 inTerActionVRI, Apr 5, 2022
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    That may be.

    But how do you know that these packages are present in LTSC 2021?
    Did you run the command to check if packages are present?

    Check the /Get-ProvisionedAppxPackages command
    Removing Windows Apps Using Apps DISM List
    Code:
    DISM.exe /Image:"C:\Toolkit\Mount\Install\1" /Get-ProvisionedAppxPackages
    
    Check the /Get-Packages command too
    Removing Windows Components Using Package DISM List
    Code:
    DISM.exe /Image:"C:\Toolkit\Mount\Install\1" /Get-Packages
    


    The toolkit informs you that they are not present instead of trying to remove them and giving you that error. It's not just running dism command, there is a check for the presence of the package.

    Note: You have to remove those name "~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.19041.1" add-ins from the names you add to the lists.
    For apps only the names without version and without any _8wekyb3d8bbwe or _cw5n1h2txyewy, etc :
    MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS
    MicrosoftWindows.UndockedDevKit
    Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost
     
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