1. n3ro97

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    #24241 n3ro97, Dec 13, 2022
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    I compared IMCK Disable Windows Update tweak to stock Toolkit Disable Windows Update tweak and I did a lot of tests which gave me many conclusions.
    Some changes are required to download, update, and run the Microsoft Store App by using the wsreset -i method together with the stock Toolkit's Disable Windows Update tweak.

    Required components to use Microsoft Store app and apps within it:
    Code:
    - Edge Chromium Browser
    - AAD Broker Plugin
    - Accounts Control
    - Windows Store Back-end Client
    To be able to download, update and run Microsoft Store app and apps within it, these registry values need to be changed:
    Code:
    "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate"
    "DoNotConnectToWindowsUpdateInternetLocations" "1" to "0"
    
    "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\wuauserv"
    "Start" "4" to "3"
    To enable auto updates for Microsoft Store app and apps within it, this registry value need to be changed:
    Code:
    "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsStore\WindowsUpdate"
    "AutoDownload" "5" to "4"
    Windows Update will still be blocked even after making these registry changes.
    Now we can use "wsreset -i" x2 times and wait 1 min for download and installation process to complete in the background.

    Other conclusions and issues:
    - Some Microsoft Store apps require Edge Chromium Browser to be installed, otherwise they won't work. [TikTok, Twitter, Snapchat, SoundCloud, Hulu, etc.]
    - Some Apps that manage their own updates and require additional permissions end up with error during installation. [Zoom, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, OneNote, Opera Browser, Brave Browser, etc.]
    - Microsoft Store global search bar results are not working for some reason? (infinite loading) I don't know why.

    I would appreciate any help in resolving the problem with apps that manage their own updates and require additional permissions because they simply won't download and install. [Zoom, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC, OneNote, Opera Browser, Brave Browser]
    Also why Microsoft Store App global search bar results are not working? Could it be missing component or registry? This both things work flawlessly on the unmodified image.
     
  2. Dark Vador

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    Edge Chromium Browser ? or edge view ? i think you talking about edge view
    I remove this ugly Edge Chromium from any computer I use
     
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  3. Tiger-1

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    Hello @Dark Dinosaur what method do you use to get rid of Edge Chromium thanks? :)
     
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  4. n3ro97

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  5. Dark Vador

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    MS can't leave me ? must putting their s**t in my computer ?
    I will not install this app's, if that the price
     
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  6. inTerActionVRI

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    I don't remove it, just because of its use in the SandBox and because of some apps that are dependent on Edge, but as soon as I learn to customize the SandBox and there is a bypass that breaks the EdgeChromium dependency, I also start deleting it again .

    Hehehehe
     
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  7. LiuBang

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    Question related to microsoft updates
    for an example if i removed edge chromium and then installed the image
    if i used windows update and installed all updates , edge chromium will be installed in the updates without a choice
    i want to know if there is a work around to not let the stuff i remove from getting installed from windows updates
    i didn't search around much , thought someone could save me some time
    thanks in advance
     
  8. Pl cross check w10 ui by abbodi1406 with dont install edge chromium set to 2 or 1 depending upon your scenario.
     
  9. LiuBang

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    will check that
    but is there a workaround to all apps that we removed to not return , because there are alot of stuff that gets installed with the updates
    for an example : Remote control , Storage spaces , workspaces center , and i don't know what else
    so is there a solution to get only the security patches or i'm forced to get all that
    i understand there is a solution for Edge chromium but what about the others
    Also thanks for your answer
     
  10. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    There is a way, which in my view is solid, to update windows without the crap coming back...

    1. Disable Windows Update.
    2. And whenever you want to update, you should create your updated custom iso.
    3. perform the inplace update.
    Search for inplace update here on the forum. You will find a lot of content. It is simple.

    With windows update enabled for builds since 18362, components are reinstated again.
     
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  11. LiuBang

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    thanks alot for your answer very appreciated , exactly what i wanted to know
    you are totally right , saved me time and effort
     
  12. Tiger-1

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  13. inTerActionVRI

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    #24253 inTerActionVRI, Dec 16, 2022
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    But that's why making your ISO, to do the inplace update, is more interesting. Because you apply the Customizations after the integration of the updates. In the case of using Windows Update, you will always be in doubt if an update has overwritten any settings that you had already customized.


    I'll be posting the WinPE and WinRE removal progress in my thread, along with the release of an IMCK update with those implements.

    Then you can test. I'll mention you in the post.
     
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  14. i do that via pe . very easy .
     
  15. Tiger-1

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    yep very interesting friend; waiting then thanks
     
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  16. OpenSourceGhost

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    When MSMG Toolkit removes setup files, it also removes the tweak that allows for TPM bypass. Which files are necessary to preserve TPM bypass tweak?

    Does anyone know whether simple removal of WinRE.wim from mounted image and then resaving of the image (without WinRE.wim present) resuls in any corruption or problems during installation?
     
  17. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    What tweak do you say is removed?
    The Tweak applied by the Toolkit itself is not removed.
    Another thing... What build are you doing?
    22000 still works. for 22621 do not know. I read somewhere that this Bypass no longer works.

    If it's the Enthousiast tweak. Part of that is removed (a version of a Windows 10 file). But just apply again, I don't know if this relocated file will make any difference since you removed Windows Setup and it will not be possible to perform Inplace Update.
     
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  18. shhnedo

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    I used tk v13 on windows 11 22621.963 image. For now it seems to work(installs, boots, runs fine).
    Code:
    Removed Internet Components
     - Edge Chromium Browser | Depends on: Edge WebView
     - Edge WebView | Needed for: News and Interests Widgets App
     
    Removed Multimedia Components
     - Game Explorer | Needed for: Microsoft Games
     - Windows Media Player
     - Windows TIFF IFilter (OCR)
     - Windows System Assessment Tool
    
    Removed Network Components
     - Offline Files
     - Open SSH
     - Remote Desktop Client
     - Remote Differential Compression (RDC)
     - Simple TCP/IP Services
     - Telnet Client
     - TFTP Client
     - Wallet Service | Needed for: Microsoft Pay
     - Windows Mail | Needed for: Windows Mail App
    
    Removed Privacy Components
     - Assigned Access
     - Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP)
     - Face Recognition
     - Kernel Debugging | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
     - Location Service
     - Picture Password
     - Pin SignIn Support
     - Unified Telemetry Client (Asimov) | Depends on: Windows Error Reporting
     - WiFi Network Manager (WiFi Sense)
     - Windows Error Reporting
     - Windows Insider Hub
    
    Removed Remoting Components
     - MultiPoint Connector
     - OneDrive Desktop Client
     - Remote Assistance
     - Remote Desktop Server
     - Remote Registry
     - Work Folders Client
    
    Removed System Components
     - Device Lockdown (Embedded Experience)
     - Ease of Access Cursors | Depends on: Accessibility Tools
     - Ease of Access Themes | Depends on: Accessibility Tools
     - Easy Transfer
     - File History
     - Magnifier | Depends on: Accessibility Tools
     - Narrator | Depends on: Accessibility Tools
     - Projected File System (ProjFS)
     - Security Center | Depends on: Windows Defender
     - Steps Recorder
     - Storage Spaces
     - Windows Firewall
     - Windows Subsystem For Linux
     - Windows To Go
    
    Removed System Apps
     - Add Suggested Folders to Library Dialog
     - App Resolver UX - Modern Open With Dialog
     - Async Text Service - Messaging extensions for People and Maps Apps
     - Bio Enrollment - Windows Hello Setup
     - Calling Shell App - App to host call progress on shell
     - CBSPreview - App for Camera Barcode Scanner
     - Credential Dialog Host - Authentication (Sign-in) shell support for Windows Hello
     - ECApp - Modern UI Dialog App for Eye Movement Control | Depends on: WindowsMixedReality
     - Edge Classic Browser
     - Edge Developer Tools Client - An extension to edge containing tools for web developers | Depends on: Edge
     - File Explorer - Modern File Explorer App
     - File Picker - Modern File Picker Dialog
     - Lock App - Container App for Apps and Messages on the Lockscreen
     - Map Control
     - Narrator Quick Start - QuickStart Guide for Narrator
     - NcsiUwpApp - Network Connectivity Status Indicator (NCSI)
     - Parental Controls - App for Parental Controls
     - People Experience Host - People Bar (People Hub)
     - Pinning Confirmation Dialog
     - Retail Demo Content
     - Secure Assessment Browser - Special Windows Mode for Exams (Take Test App)
     - Setting Sync - Sync settings between your Windows PCs and devices
     - Skype ORTC
     - Smart Screen - Windows Defender SmartScreen Functionality for Modern Apps
     - Webcam Experience
     - Win32 Web View Host - Desktop App Web Viewer
     - Windows Defender App
     - Windows Mixed Reality
     - Windows Reader (PDF) | Depends on: Edge
     - XGpu Eject Dialog - Modern Dialog App for safe removal of external GPUs
    
    Removed Windows Apps
     - Alarms & Clock
     - App Installer
     - Clipchamp Video Editor
     - Cortana | Depends on: Speech Recognition
     - Family
     - Feedback Hub
     - Films & TV
     - Get Help
     - Google's VP9 WebM Video Codec Plugin
     - High Efficiency Image File (HEIF) Codec Plugin
     - High Efficiency Video Codec (HEVC) Plugin
     - Maps | Depends on: Map Control
     - Media Player
     - My Office
     - News
     - Notepad App
     - People | Depends on: People Bar
     - Phone Link
     - Photos
     - Power Automate Desktop
     - Quick Assist
     - Raw Image Extension
     - Solitaire Collection | Depends on: Xbox Live
     - Sticky Notes
     - Store Experience Host | Depends on: Windows Store App
     - Tips - Windows tips and tutorials App
     - Todos
     - Weather
     - Web Media Codec Plugin
     - WebP Image Codec Plugin
     - Windows Web Experience Pack - News and Interests Widgets App | Depends on: Edge WebView
     - Windows Mail App | Depends on: Windows Mail
    
    Applied Tweaks
     - Disable Automatic Download and Install of 3rd Party Apps
     - Disable Automatic Download and Install of Microsoft Teams App
     - Disable Microsoft Reserved Storage Space for Windows Updates
     - Enable Windows Local Account
     - Enable Windows Photo Viewer
     - Hide Taskbar Chat Icon
     - Hide Taskbar Cortana Icon
     - Hide Taskbar Meet Now Icon
     - Hide Taskbar News and Interests
     - Hide Taskbar Search Bar
     - Hide Taskbar Task View Icon
     - Hide Taskbar Widgets Icon
     
  19. OpenSourceGhost

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    Rufus can apply some tweaks, such as removal of TPM requirement, but Rufus can only do that if setup files are present. If automatic installation files are removed via MSMG Toolkit's removal feature, then Rufus no longer provides any tweak options upon ISO image examination. The same happens with NTLite. If automatic setup are files removed, options to disable TPM requirement disappears from NTLite's Settings page.

    Does MSMG Toolkit force Windows 10/11 to accept any WinRE image selected? For example, can I replace Windows 10/11 WinRE with Macrium's WinRE?
     
  20. inTerActionVRI

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    There is an option to integrate a custom WinRE.

    Integrate Menu
    Integrate Windows Custom Features Menu
    Custom Windows Recovery Environment

    You need to put de winre.wim in:
    .\Custom\RecoveryImage\w10\x64 folder.
    .\Custom\RecoveryImage\w11\x64 folder.
     
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