1. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    You can use The toolk menu to make that work. The resulted Install.wim cannot be serviced after that. Only if you make it in steps like. Mount only 7 x86 images, service that save. Then mount only 7 x64. Service that, save. Than w10 x86, than w10 x64.
    But as you said you dont make these changes just use the bellow path to assemble your AIO ISO.
    Use Tools --> WIM Manager --> Export

    You can use an tool from abbodi1406 "here" to join x86 with x64 and making a multiarch W7 ISO then a multiarch W10 ISO. Before use the above Export tool.
     
  2. tempdrive1

    tempdrive1 MDL Member

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    Your comments are welcome and appreciated by many.

    I partially followed you in your message. But core windows is almost all XMLs. There are few new things that are configured with json. In the toolkit, only Unattended is with xml, you can make a json create this XML, but I think it will duplicate the code. Perhaps I lack information at the moment.

    By this I mean how Toolkit could have implementation for a version-based component removal that would support different patch versions between .1 and the latest, everything that has already been tested at some point.
    It is not about adding new features for us how to manage stuff using Toolkit, it should be for the Toolkit internal behavior on how to achieve this (there was once an .xml file uploaded along with the .exe, so that's why I thought managing this "version control" could be done in that format, but basically all it would need is a lookup data/mini database stored in any way.)
    With the current way, basically experience, knowledge, but most importantly support for something that was already put a lot of effort into is lost.
    Sorry, I am just still shocked that some intermediate version, that was working before, is not working now.
    For me it is not much of a problem, the Toolkit does almost exactly what I expect from it when it comes to Windows 10 (I only have this MixedReality/Tsprint issue open), which is almost exactly what I need.


    But considering a previous suggestion (here), I had already thought of a way to put a Warning of SPbuild not supported by ToolkitHelper.
    As far as I know. This can only be done after the mounting procedure.


    Please go for it, because it seems that more and more people are getting confused about what the Toolkit is supposed to do.
    It would be a warning with a Y/N answer, where Y would let you proceed.
    Make sure to put it in red color or something (which should be the case for all errors), but I am not sure by hart what options are there for line coloring when it comes to pure batch files.
    I just had a quick look and it looks like the image version is extracted before the mounting takes place:

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Source Image Information###################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Image : Install.wim
    Image Index No : 1,2
    Image Architecture : x64
    Image Version : 10.0.19044
    Image Service Pack Build : 1288
    Image Service Pack Level : 0
    Image Build : 19044
    Image Default Language : en-US

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ####Mounting Source Images#####################################################
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Mounting [Boot.wim, Index : 1] Image at <\Mount\Boot\1>...
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.25370.1

    Mounting image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.



    Additionally, mostly in case of re-using images, it would nice if the Toolkit could detect which components are already not present, e.g. show them with "-" in the component removal menus when loading the list.
    From technical point of view this can be achieved, but not idea how much effort it would take
     
  3. Someone_

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    Well, what makes my iso a broken iso ? Because I integrated the local account patch just to be able to stay offline till I install all my drivers for the laptop and then afterwards I connect to the internet . I know the part that you trying to explain , that system applications will be re-installed reagrdless of me removing them from the iso and only the UWP apps will be gone for good (past the Windows 11 days , I too was a Windows 10 diehard but Microsoft declaring that Windows 10 will soon stop recieving updates and eventually developers will stop supporting it , I upgraded to Windows 11 (not to mention my Laptop came with a Win11 Home Key so it made all the more sense to stick with Win11). Considering you mention updates might be an issue , should I create an iso with similar settings but this time also remove Windows Update as well , because I haven't basically ever removed Windows Update from my builds just because some updates for Firmware updates are pushed through Windows Updates only and are not provided on Manifacturer's website but I think I am willing have that trade-off in exchange for a working Windows image .. considering Wnidows Update being gone should I work properly ?
     
  4. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Understood.

    Yes, yes. Too much things in mind. Only need to extract the ISO to obtain install.wim data.
     
  5. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    This work is already done (not implemented yet), but it is not interesting to reuse Custom images. This makes the possibility of errors unpredictable.

    I went through this experience. It is better, whenever there is any problem, to start the image service from scratch. Since extracting the untouched ISO.

    By the way... The ISOs created through UUPdump are just an assembly of parts with direct MS downloads. Can we say, in quotes, that they are untouched ISOs? No. Because they are not ISOs originated by MS, only the parts are. However, they are certainly not custom ISOs.
     
  6. tempdrive1

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    Okay, I see you got a little confused over my reply.

    You broke the system by removing components for which the Toolkit offered options for in Remove Windows Components menus 1-7 ([1] Internet, [2] Multimedia, [3] Network [4] Privacy, [5] Remoting, [6] System, [7] System Apps).
    If you use pretty much anything of this (at least for an unsupported version), it will break the system by not letting LCUs installed either from .msu files by yourself, or using the Windows Update option from the system.
    It is safe to remove anything from [8] Windows Apps.
    You do not want to have a system which you cannot install updates to.
    This also means preferably keeping Windows Update component, but even without it you should be able to apply updates with a bit more effort.

    Again: the point is if that system cannot be updated (which is key when it comes to security), it is only a matter of time till it will become a problem to you (you lose or get sensitive data leaked, etc.).
    If you are certain you will not be impacted by this, you can do whatever you like, as there should not be any consequences.
    When the updates add back what you removed it only means you did put work into their removal for nothing, but at least your system will be updated.
     
  7. tempdrive1

    tempdrive1 MDL Member

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    I have just loaded up a butchered .iso and all the components are listed with "+".
    Are you sure this is already implemented?
    Or perhaps I failed to describe properly what I was looking for.

    If nothing else, it could be looked up at least what was touched on that specific iso.
     
  8. greenworld

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    Thanks for instant reply. I managed to combine x86 and x64 install.wim with WinAIO maker professional.

    if I combine Windows 7 x86/x64
    or windows 10 x86/x64 this works well.
    but if I combine Windows 7 x86/64 & windows 10 x86/x64 together, during installation it ends with some error when windows edition screen appears.
     
  9. Someone_

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    OK, got it , but the thing is , security for me is the least of the concerns in the OS , what I was aiming for is a fully functional image rather than a secure one with defender and other stuff , So not having updates by a security stand point , I personally wouldn't really prioritize , since that wasn't the end goal , the end goal was for a very low resource , functional build with security being the least of my concerns . Updates to me are only useful for firmware updates for my device from time to time as well the drivers for some obscure devices that Windows has . And many of the items that I remove from the System tab are ones I don't use and don't want running in the background either and having updates removed or crashed would prevent them from coming back . For me , that is a feature since I (other than the issue at hand) have not encountered a single other issue with the ISO's I create instead use them on some very old hardware to give them that extra lil bit of RAM to run programs better. The thing that you mentioned about Win version 22621.525 not being supported by MSMG Toolkit though I understand is being a problem .. so where can I find the supported ISO's ? Since I generally got my ISO's straight from Microsoft's official Windows 11 ISO download page and 22621.525 is the version they have up right now .. so maybe you can point me to one of the supported ISO's download ?
     
  10. tempdrive1

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    Well, if you do not need to care about updates, the image you created is usable.
    Generally speaking I would recommend "downgrading" to Windows 10, if you have the possibility for it.
    For Windows 11 this is as good as it gets, I suppose, but I don't think it has anything better to offer than Windows 10.

    I don't know where to get the supported iso-s from, I would probably google it.
    There is a tool called Fido (PowerShell-based), but I cannot use it as the MS servers that it is using are not accessible from certain networks, so I cannot tell if it would work, but my guess is it would let you download official releases and not Insider releases.
    But again, you don't actually need it if you don't care to update the system.

    Keep the image that you created, and try to perform the steps I suggested, or if it is not an option to follow it exactly, do an offline installation in another way, copy the files and try if they work as soon as you go online.
    Based on the tests I performed, this version that you created is good enough to use those applications.
     
  11. Someone_

    Someone_ MDL Novice

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    Actually , I'd love to use Windows 10 over 11 since neither do I like the aesthetics of Windows 11 nor the extra gimmicks that cost performance, I was content with the minimalism of Windows 10 but as I said , Windows 10 is out of support by Microsoft soon and developers will deprecate it as well and also that my Laptop contains a Windows 11 Home Product Key and also drivers for my PC and Laptop are created mostly for Windows 11 ( I know that they can work on each other but they are far from being seamless) so I am kinda coaxed into using this OS .. I actually have a Windows 10 image as well with similar customization .. could you try it since you are more familiar with Win 10. I created the Win 10 iso for an older PC which was seriously deficient of resources it could provide the OS .. if you could check it ,please let me know .. I understand that this might be crossing the lines on how much I can ask of you so feel free to refuse if you can't , you have already helped quite a lot and I have gained much throughout the conversation ..
     
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    Any idea what are dependencies for microsoft store on LTSC version? Without debloating, no issue to use store script afterwards but when i leave components for store from the description and debloat others store wont open afterwards.
     
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    Hi. Is there an official documentation explaining the components I am about to remove?
     
  14. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    #25634 inTerActionVRI, Jun 13, 2023
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    No. I edit my post soon as I posted it.
    Just the work have been done.

    I shared a script with that job here.

    I have to look for the post.


    EDIT: post
     
  15. tempdrive1

    tempdrive1 MDL Member

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    Sent you a p.m.
     
  16. tempdrive1

    tempdrive1 MDL Member

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    I could not get it to work yet, gonna have to play around with it, I guess.
    It keeps asking "Enter one Mounted Edition Index Number, for data Reading".

    The original post is surprisingly old, I do wonder if you were the only one who remembered it...
     
  17. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    You can put all the Index in the same image. But I never tried to make it work. Thanks for the feedback.

    But to make it work I believe you have to prepare a W10 boot.wim.

    Do a search here on the forum, if I'm not mistaken I've seen it.
     
  18. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    I'll find a newer version I have here, it already has multi menus automatically generated.

    You have to assemble with the Toolkit. Then you run the script. If this script isn't that old, as I recall it finds the mount points.
     
  19. Tonho Dalua

    Tonho Dalua MDL Novice

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    Hi,bro…
    I made a definite mistake here…
    after I removed the component,I can't open the jpeg, png from the Windows Photo Viewer, is there something wrong with the component I removed?

    I'm using toolkit_v13.3 and below is the component that I removed, does anyone know what I did wrong? thanks…

    AdobeFlashForWindows

    EdgeChromium


    FirstLogonAnimation

    GameExplorer

    SpeechRecognition

    WindowsTIFFIFilter

    WinSAT


    OfflineFiles

    OpenSSH

    SimpleTCPIPServices

    TelnetClient

    WalletService

    WindowsMail


    AssignedAccess

    CEIP

    FaceRecognition

    KernelDebugging

    LocationService

    PicturePassword

    PinEnrollment

    UnifiedTelemetryClient

    WiFiNetworkManager

    WindowsErrorReporting

    WindowsInsiderHub


    RemoteDesktopServer

    RemoteRegistry


    DeviceLockdown

    EaseOfAccessCursors

    EaseOfAccessThemes

    EasyTransfer

    FileHistory

    Magnifier

    ManualSetup

    Narrator

    SecurityCenter

    StepsRecorder

    StorageSpaces

    SystemRestore

    WindowsBackup

    WindowsFirewall

    WindowsSubsystemForLinux

    WindowsToGo

    WindowsUpdate

    Wordpad


    AddSuggestedFoldersToLibraryDialog

    AppResolverUX

    AssignedAccessLockApp

    AsyncTextService

    BioEnrollment

    CallingShellApp

    CBSPreview

    ContentDeliveryManager

    CredDialogHost

    ECApp

    Edge

    EdgeDevToolsClient

    FileExplorer

    FilePicker

    LockApp

    MapControl

    NarratorQuickStart

    NcsiUwpApp

    OOBENetworkCaptivePortal

    OOBENetworkConnectionFlow

    ParentalControls

    PeopleExperienceHost

    PinningConfirmationDialog

    QuickAssist

    RetailDemoContent

    SecureAssessmentBrowser

    SettingSync

    SkypeORTC

    SmartScreen

    WebcamExperience

    Win32WebViewHost

    WindowsDefender

    WindowsMixedReality

    WindowsReaderPDF

    WindowsStoreClient

    XboxClient

    XboxGameCallableUI

    XGpuEjectDialog


    3DViewer

    AdvertisingXaml

    Alarms

    BingWeather

    Camera

    CommunicationsApps

    Cortana

    DesktopAppInstaller

    FeedbackHub

    GetHelp

    Getstarted

    Maps

    MixedRealityPortal

    OfficeHub

    OfficeOneNote

    Paint3D

    People

    Photos

    ServicesStoreEngagement

    ScreenSketch

    SkypeApp

    SolitaireCollection

    SoundRecorder

    StickyNotes

    StorePurchaseApp

    Wallet

    WindowsStoreApp

    XboxApp

    XboxGameOverlay

    XboxGamingOverlay

    XboxIdentityProvider

    XboxSpeechToTextOverlay

    XboxTCUI

    YourPhone

    ZuneMusic

    ZuneVideo
     
  20. inTerActionVRI

    inTerActionVRI MDL Expert

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    Tonho Dalua --> ótimo personagem. Nostálgico... hehehehe

    Tonho Dalua --> great character. Nostalgic... hehehehe

    Currently windows is configured in that there.

    When you remove it you have to apply tweak to Windows Photo ViewerViewer.

    I always applied the tweak. But today I surrendered to using Photos because of the family and their iPhones.
    However, you can fix this in the default apps setting.