1. zlip

    zlip MDL Novice

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    Is it possible to prevent updates from installing removed packages?
     
  2. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    The only way to deal with this is to disable updates and then build a new image when you want to update (with matching removals) and then do an in place upgrade.

    Personally, I don't remove the stuff that comes back, too much a PITA to keep on top of.
     
  3. zlip

    zlip MDL Novice

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    Are you referring to updating iso with lcu?

    I intend to do that.
     
  4. Jingzin

    Jingzin MDL Addicted

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  5. PhantomMaggot

    PhantomMaggot MDL Novice

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    So I decided to reinstall 10 on my older system for the time being. Got my iso from OS dot Click
    extracted it to the DVD folder
    Got this message when I selected 10 pro
    "The selected source image build does not support custom component removal, how it supports DISM component removal"
    I don't recall that from my last go around with MSMG. What do I need to konw?
     
  6. Elise Cameron

    Elise Cameron MDL Novice

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    1) The iso files from Microsoft directly do not work.
    2) The iso files from uupdump.net with both "Include updates (Windows converter only" and "Run component cleanup" do not work.
    2.1) but without them works (at least for me it did)

    3) One can still do the component removal stuff with msmg without the "custom component removal". For that
    3.1) one uses the "Remove Windows Components Using Package List" -> "ToolKitHelper Method".
    3.2) Navigate to the extracted msmg folder "\Toolkit_v13.6\Bin\Lists" and open "RemovePkgsList.txt". The file is empty; here you put any custom components you want to remove.
    3.2) You find the example list in "Toolkit_v13.6\Bin\Lists\ToolkitHelper_Templates". Right now it's "RemovePkgsList_W11_10.0.2262X" and "RemovePkgsList_W11_10.0.22000" or the Win8/10 ones.
    3.3) The 160 lines long example list is mostly in chronological order. Just copy the names from the msmg menu and search them in the example list, then add them to the empty list.

    Btw. With this method, I found out irremovable (marked with an asterisk in msmg components menu) components can be removed.
    E.g. "Menu 1: Internet", Edge, WebView and Internet Explorer from the Win 11 iso that can't be removed (nothing happens when selecting 1,2,3) can be removed that way.
     
  7. Elise Cameron

    Elise Cameron MDL Novice

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    Good day,
    having an unwanted behavior after first steps of the Windows 11 23H2 installation; it fails to finish installation eventually.
    Anyone want want to help or have ideas?

    1) used latest "Windows 11, version 23H2 (22631.2715) amd64" from uupdump.net.
    2) Did not tick "Include updates (Windows converter only" and"Run component cleanup", because only that way I could remove custom components with MSMG
    3) Succesfully removed stuff from latest Win 23H2 Pro iso with the msmg v13.6 etc. pp.
    4) created bootable usb-stick etc. pp. and then finished the first part of the installation. After that setup says "Need to restart in 10 seconds".
    5) Okay, restarts successfully. After that does some stuff successfully and restarts again.
    6) After that it loads the setup for the last finish on a black background, but then a popup appears during that, displaying "Installation failed. Please install again".

    And that's it. Already tried multiple times using different languages, regions, partitions etc. Always failes after third and last restart of the installation.
    Looking at the hard drive containing the installation from another OS installation: everything looks okay. The usual folders and files were created.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  8. f0ness

    f0ness MDL Novice

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    Hello.

    After my many tests, the latest working build is 22621.2283 (you can immediately include the update in the image on uupdump.net)

    In order for the installation to be successful, it is recommended to remove the Windows Apps via the menu rather than the PackageList.

    You can delete everything except:
    FirstLogonAnimation
    ClientCBS

    CloudExperienceHost
    ShellExperienceHost
    StartMenuExperienceHost
    UndockedDevKit
     
  9. Elise Cameron

    Elise Cameron MDL Novice

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    @MSMG
    Are you the developer? You are reading this forum?
    Have to send him bug reports etc.via mail?

    @f0ness
    Okay, thank you.
    Also noticed that additional to ClientCBS, ClientWebExperience always bugs during removal; got tot keep it too.

    I kinda figured it out myself that I removed too much stuff (via "custom component removal" and "ToolKitHelper Method/PackageList" ). Made a new iso where I kept a bit more components, especially the OOBE ones (for first Windows installation) and now it worked.
     
  10. PhantomMaggot

    PhantomMaggot MDL Novice

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    Really, I want to remove Cortana, auto... anything, I don't recall what all I removed last time. I'd honestly remove everything I could if I knew what all I could dump without breaking stuff.
    Also, last time I went through all this I was able to add back in old features from 7. Like regular ol' MS paint. I don't see those options either.

    Do I need to get an ISO from somewhere else?
     
  11. zlip

    zlip MDL Novice

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    Thanks to your post I managed to understand the alternative way to use msmg in an updated iso.

    I did a test with the latest 19045, removed several packages and it worked.
     
  12. Cristhian

    Cristhian MDL Novice

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    i can confirm when loading 23h2, the toolkit detects as 22h2, even with oficial iso
     
  13. Jingzin

    Jingzin MDL Addicted

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    23h2 aint supported by toolkit as far as i know thats why
     
  14. best2016a

    best2016a MDL Novice

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    The selected source image build does not support custom component removal,
    However it supports DISM component removal. For component removal, use Remove
    Windows Components using Package List (DISM Method) menu.
    Do you want to continue ? ['Y'es/'N'o]

    23h2 aint supported by toolkit as far as i know thats why