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    fabricio simoes MDL Senior Member

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    Is there a specific date for updating the toolkitHelper, @MSMG has appeared to support the Windows 11 iso 24h2, any news?
     
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  4. trim18

    trim18 MDL Novice

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    #27284 trim18, Oct 24, 2024
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    For me MSMGToolKit works fine for 24H2 after i tweaked the Toolkit.cmd . . . opened with Notepad searched for "Toolkithelper.exe" found 2 entrys they was to change on_line 21309 & 21331 where i replaced "22631" with "26100" !

    Tested Home Pro IoT and Toolkithelper Removal RemovePkgsList.txt and have Great System Latency since installed the created WinDos .

    :)
     
  5. imlost2

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    #27285 imlost2, Oct 25, 2024
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  6. trim18

    trim18 MDL Novice

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    I also use an $OEM$ folder to install current runtimes. . . But I've been doing it since WinDos 10 because the toolkit packs were always lagging behind somehow.

    Otherwise, I still use the option of integrating applications with ThirdPartyAppPacks or what I did was to integrate ThirdPartyAppPacks into a 26100.1 image as a base and replace them as needed with updates with copy and past from Unzipped or Clean Installed Programgs in the mounted wim e.g.: 7zip - Firefox . . . OK, the problem is that the version numbers of the outdated version are retained in the registry and, for example, Winget does not recognize that the existing version is more current.

    Somewhere in this long and beloved forum, MSMG also explained how you could create TPK packages yourself using TotalUninstaller, but before I could try it I couldn't find the post.

    But I don't miss out on Metro Calculator Media Player Style with 24H2 or work WinDos Home - Pro edition together at same time.

    But right @ the current state MSMG Toolkit isnt anymore Casual Arcade for CEIP :(
     
  7. pawlakbest

    pawlakbest MDL Novice

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    What is the best Windows 11 version to debloat?

    I've always used Pro version, but now for 24H2 i was thinking of using IoT LTSC, but now I'm leaning more towards Home.

    I'm only using Windows for gaming and browsing and I don't use any of it's features except from Defender, Firewall and File Explorer. My friend jokes that I should use Linux as I would only install things that I want(which I would, but it's not that good for gaming unfortunately).

    I was considering IoT due to it already have removed Store, Xbox, Copilot, Photos and more.

    On the other hand Home can also debloat these, but it doesn't have features like Hyper-V, Sandbox, Assigned Access or any Virtualization or Remote control features used in corporations, which both Pro and IoT have and I don't use.

    I know that with debloat I can make both editions basically identical, but the question is what happens with updates. I'm currently on 22H2 Pro and things I debloated (Store, Edge, Xbox and so on) didn't reinstall even after updates(I know they would if I updated to 23H2), but I still got crucial fixes like AMD Ryzen Cpu fix, which was released for 24H2 but backported to 23 and 22. Fortunately IoT 2024 has this fix as it's based on 24H2, but will it get updates that for example 25H2 will get?
    It's not security update and IoT is for business, so gaming fixes may not be included.

    It seems to me Home is best choice for more "gaming future proof" debloat.
     
  8. imlost2

    imlost2 MDL Member

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    @pawlakbest. I don't know why users spend all that time and effort to debloat Windows only to turn around a destroy everything with Windows updates. Update drivers for better performance, sure. Update 3rd party software for new features, OK. But Windows Updates are unnecessary. There are many examples of MS updates restoring features that were removed by the user. See my reasoning here.
     
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  9. trim18

    trim18 MDL Novice

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    #27289 trim18, Oct 27, 2024
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    Go to uupdump.net Download a Script for WinDos 11 maybe only with one Edition included and Run the buildprocess once with Internet so that Updates, Runtimes are Downloaded and Includet . . .
    go Offline and delete in the uupdump folder the folder that has the APPs in it or keep the APPs they needed and run Buildprocess again that way you create a windows without any APPs they needless and the APPs wouldnt retain even when Updating a Live WinDos 11 or Install WinDos 11 Image.

    Also delete " amd64_Microsoft-Windows-Client-Features-Package " in uupdump folder so there is less SPAM when using WinDos 11 in Offline & Online mode .

    Also in the convert-UUP.cmd are Options to Tweak on off .

    Dont forget to delete the "spotlight.theme" in Mount:\Windows\Resources\Themes folder and also the InboxApps folder under Mount:\Windows folder in mounted install.wim with MSMG Toolkit !
     
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    pawlakbest MDL Novice

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    It's true that sometimes updates restore things that I debloated, but that is not true always, and not all things are restored. As I said, even after one year of updating my 22H2, there is still no Edge, Store or Xbox bloat, but Ease of Access was restored for ex. Anyway, looking how 24H2 still has some bugs, I would like to receive some updates to fix them as clearly 24H2 is not ready out of the box, but I still want to update to it.
     
  12. trim18

    trim18 MDL Novice

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    Using 26100.2152 as base would a god start i think because builds before had broken component storage and 26100.2161 introduce new errors for User interface.
     
  13. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Where possible I only download and work with Enterprise versions of Windows. I do this so I have maximum control in my installations of Windows.
     
  14. imlost2

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    #27295 imlost2, Oct 30, 2024
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  15. MIMMO61

    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    imlost2 MDL Member

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    @MIMMO61. Reboot, or try restarting Explorer. If that doesn't work, it just may be a quirk in the TaskBar folder. I've had issues, too, in the past with it getting corrupted.
     
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    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    I did a test on virtual machine, if I do the installation without network connection the icon does not appear.
    Unless it can be solved with NTLite, I don't know if it can be a solution to put a command in the iso that disable the network card.
    To avoid remembering to unplug the network cable at every installation.
     
  18. MIMMO61

    MIMMO61 MDL Senior Member

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    I tried to insert the wim file of 24H2 into the structure of 23H2, the RunOnceEx procedure works, but the problem of the Outlook (new) shortcut in the taskbar remains.