1. Techseeder

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    #3401 Techseeder, Jul 23, 2017
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    I wonder if someone can try integrating the newest updates and see if it produces the same error, I'm not sure if its just me doing something wrong or something is messing up during the integration or is it general that these newer updates won't work with MSMG.
     
  2. BladeGod

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    @Tiger-1 Well, can't we use both? I mean you can integrate all the updates you want with W10UI and then remove things using toolkit or vice-versa. This is what I do since I can't use toolkit for integrating updates.
     
  3. Techseeder

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    I looked at it and it seems like a neat looking tool! :)
     
  4. BladeGod

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    However, I had a very bad experience using NTlite. It messes up updates, uac, etc. even if I change a very small setting. May be I did something wrong but I'm content with W10UI.
     
  5. GOD666

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    You may have done something wrong, by removing something using NTlite and then using MSMG. You should only use 1 program or script to remove stuff. NTLite often takes a Sledgehammer when removing stuff, so it is easy for things to go wrong when you use it to remove stuff. But it is for that very reason that it works great on adding stuff as it will fully integrate what you're trying to integrate (the whole point and click process makes it easier for me to follow as well).
     
  6. dhjohns

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    Same with me. I deleted it after trying it several times. :(
     
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  7. Techseeder

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    If it works neatly then I'll probably purchase the licensed version.
     
  8. GOD666

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    I think the free version is good enough if all you'll use it for is to add updates. ;)
     
  9. GOD666

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    That is because many of you have tried to use it to remove stuff or used it alone side MSMG to remove stuff. You should only use 1 to remove stuff (pick 1).

    I use NTLite only to add new updates (find it easier to do).
     
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    It's just me willing to donate if I find a certain person helpful or a certain program proved useful.
     
  11. MIMMO61

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    @R23
    @BladeGod
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    Thank you all for the answers.

    From what I understand, icons in the start menu can only be deleted with MSMG Toolkit in the ISO.
    No tools or scripts can be found on the network that can delete icons all together, on an already installed operating system.
    I would need a similar MSMG Toolkit tool, but it would act on a system already installed to make it "lite".

    A greeting
     
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    Whenever I convert any build of Enterprise to a pseudo-LTSB all I need to do is restart after first boot to desktop, and all the start menu icons are gone. With RS3 this is not necessary but with the Creators Update it is.
     
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  13. BladeGod

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    Let me say what I did. I removed all the stuff using MSMG and then opened it via NTlite to change some settings. I'm not touching the components section coz doing so you'll end up with an ISO that is not updatable. I'm only changing these Local Machine and Users to disable telemetry, driver updates and some crap apps. That is all I do. And after installing the Final ISO, sfc /scannow doesn't work and always fails, even the offline integration of updates fail. Did I do anything wrong other than using both of them together. Or is it just that you can only use NTlite for updates, if I use MSMG?
     
  14. dhjohns

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    I use MSMG toolkit for app, and Windows Component removal, then I integrate updates with MSMG. I have my own script for integrating other stuff, and registry tweaks.
     
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    You did it wrong... Let me spell it out for you

    NtLite 1st
    MSMG 2nd

    This applies to everything, including changing settings (with in mind you should not use NTLite to remove anything if you're going to use MSMG)
     
  17. BladeGod

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    Likewise, it just works and doesn't corrupt file integrity. This is what I do, Integrate updates, dedup, and chop other useless stuff.
     
  18. BladeGod

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    So all this time I'm doing the other way. I'm gonna try this in VM to see if it works. Thanks!
     
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  20. Techseeder

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    #3420 Techseeder, Jul 23, 2017
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    It's not only the dynamic update but the cumulative update as well. :(