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    #4161 rcstar6696, Oct 20, 2017
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  2. Windows 10 User

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    #4162 Windows 10 User, Oct 20, 2017
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    In my case (RS3) it didn't remove Windows Photo Viewer and when I click in the apps I didn't remove they don't open and are in English and not in my language!

    Thanks, but what can I do with the free edition?
     
  3. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Winreducer has it's own forum ;)
     
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  4. AeonX

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    Easier to use: MSMG Toolkit
    Medium difficulty of use and more complete: NTLite (Pay version)

    WinReducer X-100 asks to activate the license to have access to VIP features but has all the essential functions released.

    NTLite and WinReducer X-100 require testing and trial and error to get everything running as you want. It also requires a minimum of knowledge about how Windows works. MSMG Toolkit only removes what is safe to remove and is much more conservative.

    The MSMG Toolkit does not yet support RS3. But why remove Windows Photo Viewer? This will not make any difference.
     
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  5. Windows 10 User

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    #4165 Windows 10 User, Oct 20, 2017
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    Thanks! Could you tell me what are those VIP features?

    Because I have the Photos app and I don't think I need two image apps (nor snipping tool). Will I have any problem if I remove it like can't open some image file formats that were connected to Windows Photo Viewer? Can I run cmd commands and cmdlets and remove 3D Objects in WinReducer EX-100? I don't think NTLite supports RS3 and regarding WinReducer EX-100 I don't know because unlike the other two I've never used it.
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Go to winreducer shop and find out, this is MDL's MSMG Toolkit thread.
     
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  7. Windows 10 User

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    Ok, sorry.
     
  8. AeonX

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    VIP features are futile things as more visual themes but I do not know details because I used little. All important things are available in the free version. If you get used to the annoying window asking to activate all the time you can use it quietly.

    I do not think there is any negative consequence when removing Windows Photo Viewer but the point is that it takes up little space and if not remove there is not much to worry about.

    The latest version of NTLite supports RS3. With the free version you can remove extra languages that take up a lot more space than Windows Photo Viewer :)
     
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  9. Windows 10 User

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    #4169 Windows 10 User, Oct 21, 2017
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    Thanks. Do you know how to save WinReducer's preset? Well, it's really annoying to have it all the time and not only one time every time I use it, for instance. Talking about a window, I have an annoying blue window in RS2 asking me to renew Kaspersky's license and install available Windows updates. Is it possible to make it disappear? I don't know why but every time I open the Photos app for the first time after installing Window 10 a window opens wanting me to sign in to my Microsoft account. How can I prevent this? I already do that (remove extra languages) with NTLite but in spite of it supporting RS3 (you were right, after all it does support it according to their site and not only the latest version) I can't test its full features because it's paid. I also have a problem with MSMG ToolKit because after I used it the apps I didn't remove don't open and are in English and not in my language. NTLite has the drawback of being paid to enjoy its full features. According to WinReducer's site, its tool doesn't support RS3.
     
  10. w2sjw

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    Guys,

    I have a problem using this latest version on the new Fall Creator's Edition - I was able to successfully apply the recent first cumulative update & save my changes to the WIM, but when I was attempting to convert the WIM to ESD, the DISM process just kept continuing over & over & never finished.

    I was able to successfully compress the WIM into an ESD using my own manual script. Has anyone else seen this issue?
     
  11. dhjohns

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    No I have not.
     
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  12. AeonX

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    I do not remember, I do not have very good memory :p but it sits on one of the first tabs after mounting the wim image. Yes NTLite has added RS3 support in some previous versions I can not remember which version you can see in the changelog on the official website.

    You will have to wait for MSMG to add full RS3 support or use it to remove less components that are already compatible.
     
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  13. Windows 10 User

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    Ok, thanks. I have a strange problem with older (before RS3) NTLite versions with the Creators Update and didn't try the latest ones with the Full Creators Update or even with the Creators Update. After I removed Windows Photo Viewer (jn NTLite it is called Photo Viewer and is inside Photo Codec) Edge and the others apps' taskbar icons are missing. I removed it with MSMG ToolKit and the problem was solved but after using NTLite Photo Codec stil appeared but empty (without Photo Viewer inside)!
     
  14. AeonX

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    NTLite up to version 1.3.1.5060 used an old engine. As of version 1.4 the engine has been reformulated and some bugs fixed. If you tried with version 1.3 try again with 1.4. But often removing components with NTLite breaks some functionality since removal with NTLite is quite aggressive and some things that are removed are needed for other features. That's why I said that you have to do several tests and it's trial and error. I do not know if this improved in version 1.4.

    Maybe Photo Codec does not have a .mum in C:\Windows\servicing\Packages and so it is not removed by MSMG Toolkit since it can not be removed with Dism.
     
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  15. AeonX

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    Packages that have a .mum file in C:\Windows\servicing\Packages are the packages listed by the Dism /Get-Packages command if they are not hidden or listed by install_wim_tweak and therefore can be removed by Dism or install_wim_tweak. Otherwise they need to be removed manually.

    Well, if you need to use this version of NTLite you do not have much to do you need to keep Windows Photo Viewer. I am also using this version and have to keep certain components to keep Windows Update working. Or remove Photo Viewer with MSMG Toolkit and do not have to worry about Photo Codec it is another component that is a dependency of Photo Viewer.
     
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  16. Windows 10 User

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    #4177 Windows 10 User, Oct 21, 2017
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    Install_wim_tweak? Well, I thought Photo Codec and Photo Viewer were the same because if I removed one of them with NTLite the other woudn't appear next time in the tool. The thing is, I now want to customize RS3 and that version doesn't support it! I'm trying WinReducer and the install is very slow! It's doing something in cmd!
     
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