1. felix3650

    felix3650 MDL Novice

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    I don't want to mix NTlite with MSMG Toolkit. It will get messy for me to keep track all the changes that happen during editing.
    My standard procedure is remove, cleanup, integrate and pack all into install.wim, then I use Multi-OEM/Retail Project to activate and add registry tweaks to windows.
    If I could resolve this 'issue' it would mean -1 step I have to make post-install (set windows gui language).

    What do you recommend in my case? :)
     
  2. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    I always do the opposite. I build the image up and then remove the components I don't want.

    I figure that cumulative updates might modify stuff it expects to be there so integrating them at the end after removing stuff might cause issues.
     
  3. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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    It better to do removing first then integrating after.
     
  4. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    I have had issues in the past where I try to add a cumulative update to an image I have messed with and it fails.

    If I add the updates first it just works.
     
  5. Windows 10 User

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    #4945 Windows 10 User, Dec 4, 2017
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    I used MSMG ToolKit and afterwards NTLite and now I have the "something went wrong" message appearing after setting the account name, the password and the password hint, again!
     
  6. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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    I use NTLite first to remove then MSMG Toolkit to integrate. That worked for me.
     
  7. Windows 10 User

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    #4947 Windows 10 User, Dec 4, 2017
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    It looks like disabling the Biometrics service with NTLite caused this. Weird. Does that mean if I remove Biometrics with MSMG ToolKit when it is possible, will this happen again?
     
  8. daveo76

    daveo76 MDL Expert

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    Biometrics I can't remove on NTLite free edition.
     
  9. BrecMadak

    BrecMadak MDL Novice

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    Guys? Please help, I'm sure somebody would exist that knows the answer of my question....
    You can ask incase you think that I wasnt clear enough.
     
  10. Windows 10 User

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    Me too, but I can disable its service.
     
  11. dhjohns

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    What is beneficial? I think that is a matter of opinion. Then one needs to consider if using LTSB is beneficial in a home environment.
     
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  12. BrecMadak

    BrecMadak MDL Novice

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    In terms of customizing windows files further, selecting what to be installed etc. ?

    Yes, I throughoutly searched the stripped down Enterprise - LTSB 2016 and its limitations.
     
  13. dhjohns

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    You would be better off with Windows 10 Pro 16299, IMHO.
     
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  14. BrecMadak

    BrecMadak MDL Novice

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    I think there is a misunderstanding between us.
    I dont think so because then I'd have to deal with all the crap programs that Pro forces you to install as well as non stop updates. The whole point I stick with LTSB is to avoid these nuisance and inconvenience. That is why I initially asked if MSMG toolkit would be viable and has any effect on Enterprise.
     
  15. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    I know of no "crap" programs in Pro. I know of no non-stop updates.
     
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  16. nosirrahx

    nosirrahx MDL Expert

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    Not only that but the updates keep you safe(ish) from 0day exploits that require the user to literally do nothing to get infected.

    Avoiding OS updates in the world today on any PC you surf the web with is seriously stupid.
     
  17. Myrrh

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    Maybe referring to the auto-installs of Candy Crush and other crap games that take special tinkering to disable.
     
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  18. dhjohns

    dhjohns MDL Guru

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    My sister would not like you calling Candy Crush a crap game. Perhaps instead of calling things you don't like crap you should say that you would just prefer they were not installed since you do not use them. Actually, I don't use most apps so what I do is right click and remove them from the start menu. Sure, they take up space, but my hard drive is large enough to handle the few megabytes. Is yours? Also, slimming and trimming with either NTLite or MSMG's toolkit makes absolutely no difference what-so-ever in performance.
     
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  19. nosirrahx

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    For a lot of us this was never part of the equation. I buy ultra high end hardware for performance. I build my own systems to avoid pre-installed crap, or at least that is how it used to work.......

    For me I was appalled when I installed Windows 10 for the first time and saw that out of the box the start menu was an absolute mess.

    I got progressively more and more pissed as stuff I had removed came back and certain things had no official path to removal.

    If I am never going to use it and it does not have anything to do with the actual OS I shouldn't be forced to have it cluttering things up.
     
  20. InstantAli3n

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