Hi there, I removed a number of apps on LTSB 1607 RS1 with the latest MSMG release, I ran it in vmware player and ran SFC /Scannow. I noticed a number of entries talked about duplicate ownership for directories, it also makes note of primitive installers... however, it lists a number of the components from apps I removed, such as Parental Controls. It said everything was fixed and I rebooted and tried again, it didn't find any violations. Does this mean I am experiencing registry permission errors? How do I check for that to make sure. Those applications haven't seemed to have come back yet in the settings list, so I'm not sure. Thanks See small part of log: Spoiler "2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b3@2018/5/15:05:51:04.159 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b4 [SR] Verify complete 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b5 [SR] Repairing 8 components 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b6 [SR] Beginning Verify and Repair transaction 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b7 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxManifest.xml from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b8 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxBlockMap.xml from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065b9 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxSignature.p7x from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065ba@2018/5/15:05:51:04.644 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065bb [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\System32\OneDriveSettingSyncProvider.dll from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065bc@2018/5/15:05:51:04.784 CSIPERF - FileMapsCreated 125ms 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065bd CSIPERF - FilePI Commit 126ms 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065be@2018/5/15:05:51:04.784 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065bf [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\Fonts\BioMDL2.ttf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c0 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\resources.pri from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c1 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\BioEnrollmentHost.exe from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c2 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\BioEnrollmentUI.dll from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c3@2018/5/15:05:51:04.847 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c4 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\App.xbf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c5 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\BlankPage.xbf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c6 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\Assets\Logo.scale-100.png from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c7 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\WpcUapApp.exe from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c8 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\Blocked.xbf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065c9 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\MainPage.xbf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065ca [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\Assets\StoreLogo.scale-100.png from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065cb [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\resources.pri from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065cc [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\MSAVerificationPage.xbf from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065cd [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\Assets\SmallLogo.scale-100.png from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065ce [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\Assets\Splashscreen.scale-100.png from store 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065cf@2018/5/15:05:51:04.909 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:04, Info CSI 000065d0 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SysWOW64\OneDriveSettingSyncProvider.dll from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d1@2018/5/15:05:51:05.018 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d2 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.BioEnrollment_cw5n1h2txyewy\pris\resources.en-US.pri from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d3@2018/5/15:05:51:05.050 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d4 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\pris\resources.en-US.pri from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d5 Error - Overlap: Duplicate ownership for directory \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\pris in component Microsoft-Windows-ParentalControls.AppxMain.Resources, version 10.0.14393.0, arch amd64, culture [l:5]'en-US', nonSxS, pkt {l:8 b:31bf3856ad364e35} 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d6@2018/5/15:05:51:05.081 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d7 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxManifest.xml from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d8 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxBlockMap.xml from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065d9 [SR] Repairing corrupted file \??\C:\Windows\SystemApps\ParentalControls_cw5n1h2txyewy\AppxSignature.p7x from store 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065da@2018/5/15:05:51:05.096 Primitive installers committed for repair 2018-05-14 22:51:05, Info CSI 000065db [SR] Repair complete"
An idea: If we use let's say a 1803 image with every metro app removed on our computer. Then we set registry entries like "disableOSUpgrade" and "AllowOSUpgrade 0" etc. to avoid automatic feature updates ever 6 months. Then, when for example the fall update comes out, could we use MSMG on that newly released image in the same way and manually upgrade the system with that image? That would enable manual upgrades without getting all the junk back. Could be worth trying. Cheers.
+1 good question. how can one keep the 'state' of his MSMG modified image in production over the new versions pushed out two times a year. technically it is a new windows version afaik...
Exactly. Tom said it even better. Preserve the state of the modified image, because what is being pushed is actually a whole new install. I found a regfile over at askVG with some entries to block the so called "feature upgrades". Normal monthly updates will still be installed. In this way we can use a more recent build as compared to LTSB, and still be on the safe side when it comes to the bloat being pushed twice a year. Cheers.
I have no idea why anyone likes LTSB at all. You can download, modify and install any build you want and have a far more tailored experience. LTSB users seem to always be complaining about something. Its almost as if its kind of a crappy option.
Anyone knows of a "windows search" replacement alternative ?? (full replacement, providing seamless/integral shell integration/replacement).. I mistakenly removed the search feature along with cortana when with MSMG.. I'm seeking for potential alternatives/workaround first. Search Everything by Voidtools does the job, but partially only.. I'd love to find some way to redirect the now "disabled" <search on type> from within the start menu, so that when I start typing, it does so in Everything instead.. (not sure its worth the time required to look for such a reg tweak however.. if any exist at all) I'll take any hints/advises.. Thanks
The 1803 is full of bugs (check windows 10 reddit and you'll see), 1709 is meh, 1703 is usable, 1607 will not receive any updates for now, I understand your opinion but you forgot that MSFT is adding a lot of useless features and then, they forgot to fix their OS, the main reason of why I'm using ltsb is that I don't have any bugs or problems on it besides, I don't need to care about upgrades... But, like I've said, I respect your opinion.
I found the way, sorry for my ignorance, the way to look, is open the regedit after the load, and with the prefix "tk_" is the mounted registry.
Not sure what you are you are doing with these builds but all of the bugs I have seen are corner cases, not having any issues with 1709 (with current CU) or 1803. I don't use any of the new features, just rip them out. I use the current builds to have the best core OS.
Code: 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SOFTWARE 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Failed to unload offline registry: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SOFTWARE, the client may still need it open. [HRESULT = 0x80070005 - E_ACCESSDENIED] 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SYSTEM 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Failed to unload offline registry: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SYSTEM, the client may still need it open. [HRESULT = 0x80070005 - E_ACCESSDENIED] 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SECURITY 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/SAM 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/COMPONENTS 2018-05-17 14:10:16, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/DRIVERS 2018-05-17 14:10:17, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/System32/config/DEFAULT 2018-05-17 14:10:17, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Users/Default/ntuser.dat 2018-05-17 14:10:17, Info CBS Force unloading offline registry hive: {bf1a281b-ad7b-4476-ac95-f47682990ce7}D:/MSMGToolKit/Mount/Install/Windows/system32/smi/store/Machine/schema.dat error DISM.txt log in latest windows insider build 17672 when trying to remove advanced windows compoments. And lots of enties says windows packge not found.....
In terms of OSes, LTSB is ancient (2 years old.) Only meant for commercial, industrial use it is not a consumer product. Use it if you wish, but I prefer the most recent. I don't rip stuff out, I add stuff in.