1. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    i honestly do not know what microsoft is doing, each version they make windows is just worse. i mean security certainly is an improvement, but look at them USELESS features and bloat and spying crap. i mean this is not the thread to rant.. i welcome ffs_ community moderator to do his thing but really... im deeply annoyed at the state of removals. thats not to say msmg isnt doing a great job or anything, but theres just so much one can do while keeping it clean.
     
  2. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    Yeah they do just keep piling it on. Fortunately a lot of it can be removed with MSMG ToolKit, but not everything. There's still few things I wish I could get out of there, but not at the cost of system functionality. So far with ~most~ of the stuff removed on the ToolKit list I haven't come across anything broken. Would like to keep seeing it that way.
     
  3. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    Do you have any issues with the PC waking from sleep? Like explorer hanging or crashing, unable to run programs, requiring a reboot? Do you use the Windows "start menu"?
     
  4. MonarchX

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    Any progress with fixing LTSC 2019 Menu to make Cortana available for removal?
     
  5. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    No problems, just double checked, laptop sleeps and resumes without issue, no errors in event log either. This is with LTSC 2019 and I'm removing just about everything in System and Advanced list (no apps list for LTSC).
     
  6. biatche

    biatche MDL Addicted

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    Removals used to be easier, by way of dism.. but now MSMG has to resort to toolkit.exe..... and i mean who knows how they would play once the computers receive new cumulative updates and major updates etc.
     
  7. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    OK, thanks. I'm using 1809 ent with Open Shell menu, was Classic Shell. All PCs have problems waking from sleep. But it's the same with the Windows Start menu. maybe I should give LTSC a go.
     
  8. SciPhy

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    I'm using open shell too, but I dont have that problem right now. I used to have it bfore, but It doesn't happen anymore. I sometimes think when you install a fresh image it appears and at other times it dont. I guess I'll look into it more thoroughly
     
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  10. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    odd you mention 19-h1,
    i'm about to upgrade to the next build.
     
  11. mhussain

    mhussain MDL Senior Member

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    the start.cmd never launched in the seperate window?
    it works for me :)
    you run exec ti in the folder not the win7 one,
     
  12. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    I'm also using OpenShell, It's programs like that and MSMG Toolkit that make life with Windows 10 tolerable.

    That's great to hear they're moving in the right direction with the feature bloat. They should go back to their roots, remember the days when there was a big list of features to choose during install?. Why did they get away from that? I mean why cram features down people's throats when they don't want or need them. It's kind of the way of the world now to give people fewer options, but being able to choose features is also a feature.
     
  13. rayleigh_otter

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    #9576 rayleigh_otter, Jan 26, 2019
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    Because we live in an Opt Out not Opt In world and they make opting out bloody difficult to damn near impossible and many people dont even care.. :mad:

    LTSB 1607 isnt too bad just needs tweaking.
     
  14. Krager

    Krager MDL Senior Member

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    Yeah it would be easy to get into a philosophical discussion about the whole opt out thing, but at least give us back the option on our computers.
     
  15. rayleigh_otter

    rayleigh_otter MDL Expert

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    #9578 rayleigh_otter, Jan 26, 2019
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    Tools like the Toolkit at least give us some control, better than nothing. :)
     
  16. boo123

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    I use 1607 LTSB and its becoming buggy for me.. maybe need to re install
     
  17. boyonthebus

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    Whenever you run start.cmd, no matter how you launch it, it runs toolkit.cmd with Nsudo with trusted installer all privileges.
    Code:
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    if "%PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE%" equ "x86" set "Arch=x86"
    if "%PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE%" equ "AMD64" set "Arch=x64"
    
    @start /b "ToolKit - TrustedInstaller" "%~dp0Bin\%Arch%\NSudo.exe" -U:T -P:E "%~dp0ToolKit.cmd"
     
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