MSMG ToolKit

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  1. kandido

    kandido MDL Junior Member

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    #18421 kandido, Feb 5, 2021
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    Please, when done, could you share this new version? I'm interested too.
     
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  2. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    hmm strange, because I use V10.1 and never issued until now none errors or ploblembs
     
  3. dolivas

    dolivas MDL Novice

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    Ok downloaded the KB4598291 again and compared the files. They are the same so I think the original file was fine.

    Applied just the updates and installed in a VM and everything was good. KB4598291 was not needed.

    So I tried again after removing some stuff and adding stuff and once again it’s saying I need KB4598291 so something is breaking the integration. I will research further what might be breaking the integration.
     
  4. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    Ok.

     
  5. MSMG

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    - Do all the integration first and then remove the components not the other way.
    - Current supported CU for v2004/v20H2 component removal is .745/.746.
    - Integrating updates after removal will restore the removed components except Windows Apps for Windows 10 1903 and above.


     
  6. dolivas

    dolivas MDL Novice

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    Ok so the real problem is that after integrating the newest updates it moves the version to 10.0.19042.789 which is not supported yet for removals ?

    I just tried the same image but re-integrated the updates and then re-integrated 3.5 .NET Framework

    This time after install in the VM everything was as expected no updates need other than KB2267602 & KB890830
     
  7. kandido

    kandido MDL Junior Member

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    Thanks, very kind of You
     
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  8. Bira

    Bira MDL Member

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    Allo MSMG all right? do you have any method or command to delete updates with resetBase or windows permanent?
     
  9. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    #18429 Yanta, Feb 6, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2021
    Actually, I said I used 10.1. I won't be using any version of the toolkit that doesn't work with 17763.1 base ISO.
    I reinstalled Windows 16th January after making a significant number of changes to my postinstall script.

    The image was created with the 17763.1131 CU. As I stay two months behind in updates after install the Nov 2020 update, 17763.1577 was installed.

    My script kills the SearchUI.exe process, changes permissions and renames the folder. Does the same for the InputApp folder (WindowsComposableShell)

    Seemed to be working well enough. Then I noticed an error in event log that I'd never seen before. After checking I found that the 2 original folders had been restored.

    Deleted them and then started getting another error. Something is trying to start Cortana at boot up. Perhaps suggesting that Cortana is not completely removed from the image.

    I've just gone and changed my logging options to stop the errors being written to the event log.

    I'll roll the test PC back to base install (1131). I will check to see if Windows tries to start Cortana at boot up, then install the Nov 2020 CU and see if that restores the two components.

    Initial error:
    Code:
    The server Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_1.11.6.17763_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy!CortanaUI did not register with DCOM within the required timeout.
    
    After removing the restored folder...
    Code:
    Unable to start a DCOM Server: Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_1.11.6.17763_neutral_neutral_cw5n1h2txyewy!CortanaUI as Unavailable/Unavailable. The error:
    "0"
    Happened while starting this command:
    "C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.Cortana_cw5n1h2txyewy\SearchUI.exe" -ServerName:CortanaUI.AppXa50dqqa5gqv4a428c9y1jjw7m3btvepj.mca
    
    1. Roll back to 17763.1131. No errors in event log
    2. Install 17763.1518 (Oct 2020) manually;
    (a). Inputapp folder restored
    (b). Cortana folder restored.
    (c). First error above in event log
    (d). Remove restored folders
    (e). Second error above shown in event log
    3. Restore back to 17763.1131
    4. Manually install 17763.1577 (Nov 2020)
    (a). Inputapp folder restored
    (b). Cortana folder restored.
    (c). First error above in event log
    (d). Remove restored folders
    (e). Second error above shown in event log

    CUs are restoring the two systemapp folders.

    As I stay 2 months behind in CUs because M$ can't seem to ever release a working CU, and I want to test before I roll out to all 10 PCs, I can't use the latest MSMG Toolkit. I've never had issues getting hold of LTSC 17763.1 ISOs so I've stuck with the version of toolkit that works with that ISO.
     
  10. dolivas

    dolivas MDL Novice

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    Ok so the real problem is that after integrating the newest updates it moves the version to 10.0.19042.789 which is not supported yet for removals ?

    I just tried the same image but re-integrated the updates and then re-integrated 3.5 .NET Framework

    This time after install in the VM everything was as expected no updates need other than KB2267602 & KB890830
     
  11. bou7a

    bou7a MDL Junior Member

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    One little question.
    How add this provisioned appx package with extension (.MsixBundle or .Msix) by Dism.exe.
    This question make me think twice before writing this post, anyone have experience with that. :confused:

    ; CortanaApp Package date [Jan 15, 2021]
    Microsoft.549981C3F5F10_2.2101.15643.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe.MsixBundle

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  12. kusosaito

    kusosaito MDL Novice

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    @MSMG,
    hi, for some mistake i delete TTS (speech) from image with msmg, i didnt notice how..
    but now even if i install it from settings another software dont see that i have speech engine...
    can you please say if there is way to back it on work system? bc i alredy setup everythig...
    and also how i can add it in my image for future, to not re-do everything from zero..?
     
  13. MSMG

    MSMG MDL Developer

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    I think, it should be directly executed online after installing the Desktop App Installer.

     
  14. MSMG

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    Try re-doing a new image and then perform in-place upgrade.

     
  15. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    Why? What's wrong with the Toolkithelper.exe in v10.1? I'm happy to stay with v10.1 as I won't be moving off 1809 for several years. Doesn't the ToolkitHelper.exe in v10.1 (and 10.2 - 10.4), already work with 17763.1. Unless it's broken, don't spend valuable time making a new version for me.

    There is nothing worthwhile in any version since 1809 so it's not like there's any compelling reason to upgrade. And since 1809 is supported until 2028 why upgrade?
     
  16. tefor

    tefor MDL Senior Member

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    May i also get it , MSMG ?
    Thanks
     
  17. Sushant Swaraj

    Sushant Swaraj MDL Novice

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    web devloper
     
  18. ultimate_live

    ultimate_live MDL Addicted

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    Tested again on 19042.789
    Mounted source (boot.wim, recovery.wim, install.wim). Integrated DaRT, then I integrated kb4577586, kb4586876 inside the WHD folder. Applied , saved and unmounted images. Still the same. The size increased from 4 GB to almost 8 GB. How is it possible?
    Or must I first integrate Dart, apply, unmount, mount again to integrate the KB's?
     
  19. kusosaito

    kusosaito MDL Novice

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    yeah, if it only one way it bad ideai...T_______T
     
  20. Feartamixg

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    @MSMG
    Hope you don't mind me asking, but are there any updates before today's updates are later released on "patch Tuesday"? I plan to test the new updates once officially released tonight, so am trying to ensure that I am best prepared as the post from @kandido makes me think that there is perhaps an update due to be released from you.