MSMG ToolKit

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  1. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    Wimlib not required, you can literally rename the esd to wim and windows setup and dism will still recognise it ;)
     
  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Did you try that? DISM can't handle an install.esd renamed to install.wim:thinking:

    Code:
    Error: 11
    
    An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format.
     
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  3. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    Yes. In my homemade ISO homebrew experiments :p
    The compression algorithm used (LZX, LZMS etc.) is read from the file header. Esd is used to ease identification of solid archives ;)
     
  4. mdl052020

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    #19244 mdl052020, May 1, 2021
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    Does renaming a ext from .wim to .esd works :confused:
    then what for dism commands are used to convert wim to esd & why abbodi has made a esd to wim or vise versa wim to esd convertor :confused:
    why compression methods are different in both scenarios ie for esd is recovery & for wim is normal or max :confused:
     
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  5. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    Yes it should work but it won't change the compression algorithm so non-solid archive will remain large and non-solid (contents won't be changed)
    Wim to esd converter converts it into a solid archive and reduces file size.
    Esd (solid archive) renamed to wim will remain non-editable, needs to be properly decompressed to make non-solid and editable ;)
     
  6. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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  7. mdl052020

    mdl052020 MDL Addicted

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    That is what i am reffering to solid archive esd .
     
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  8. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Or by design to prohibit novices who used the MCT to create an ISO to corrupt it?;)

    ps, imagex (not wimlib-imagex) can handle install.esd to some level, mounting but not saving, deleting indexes.
     
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  9. mdl052020

    mdl052020 MDL Addicted

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    why will somebody just change the ext from wim to esd if it wont do any change.
    main criteria of converting wim to esd is to solid compress it so as to save space on iso & as well as faster installation.
     
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  10. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    Solid archives by design are very difficult to edit, be it solid 7z archives or ESDs :p
     
  11. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    :dunno:
     
  12. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Most claim using install.esd would be slower, but only swm will be slower at installing, because it first needs to copy the swm files to be able to use/apply them. wim and esd can be directly applied.
     
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  13. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    LZMS hardly requires more CPU resources than LZX for decompressing ;) although it is a completely different story for compression.
     
  14. mdl052020

    mdl052020 MDL Addicted

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    Yes Absolutely Correct Brother. ESD Installation is faster compared to wim apply as per my consent. never tried swm's splitting image into parts so cant say about that.
     
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  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It's approx. the same for esd or wim.

    Somewhere in this thread i published the timings.


    But nothing of this is helping this question, not as long as the writer doesn't reply with the asked info:
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/msmg-toolkit.50572/page-961#post-1657431
     
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  16. mdl052020

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  17. Exe Csrss

    Exe Csrss MDL Senior Member

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    Depends. For example if someone has a weak CPU but a really fast SSD then wim will be a little faster than esd.
    If someone has a really good CPU but a slow hard disk then esd will be a little faster than wim
     
  18. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Comparison tests need to be done on the exact same hardware, else it can't be compared because of different circumstances.

    But MSFT allegedly seems to now use swm files on their Windows 10 USB media.
     
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  19. mdl052020

    mdl052020 MDL Addicted

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    in my case system was latest gen 10 build desktop & its a esd based iso which i converted using dism from wim using compressiontype:recovery & went faster then wim installation.
    same i tested using wim which took more time to finish & complete firstlogon.

    as well before i exported both winre & boot wimm all indexes then moved them back.

    time taken in esd installation is just 3:48 minutes
    but in wim installation it took 4:17 minutes.
     
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