New activation scheme in Windows 10 RTM (10240) - Product keys aren't required

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  1. EFA11

    EFA11 Avatar Guru

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    No need MSA, I upgraded a win7 pro to Win10 and it asked me to log into my original Win7 account after upgrade finished. Never asked me about MSA. All activated and running great.
     
  2. Kalliedog

    Kalliedog MDL Junior Member

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    Ok. My current machine is attached to my M$ account.
    I will be selling my machine likely in September so it will be formatted and then later signed in with someone else's M$ account.
    Will it be activated for them?
    Will it still be tied to my account which I don't want to happen?
     
  3. EFA11

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    that would be a good question for MS.

    I can see this isn't an issue for those upgrading from Win7 / 8 who use a local account. During install it doesn't ask to log in to MS account.
     
  4. Underclocked

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    #24 Underclocked, Jul 16, 2015
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    If you are an insider and wish to continue to be and IF your 10240 is not activated. Go to Settings, Update and Security, Windows Update, Advanced Options and sign up to get Insider builds. You will then restart and your computer should then allow all customizations and continued use as if it were activated.

    Nothing else worked for me.

    edited to reflect that it is NOT activated but will allow use as if activated.
     
  5. bromanbro

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    Ah, that explains it. If someone's HWID isn't in database (they never upgraded from old build) and they clean install, and do not login with Insider MSA, then it is unregistered in Insider Program by default, so they're unactivated.
     
  6. Underclocked

    Underclocked MDL Member

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    Please see my edit above.
     
  7. KR11Z4D3R

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    Only motherboard changes require a new license
     
  8. freedserf

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    #29 freedserf, Jul 16, 2015
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    Testing updates and automatic activation - new activations on hold

    On Monday, Gabe Aul announced that no new installs would be activated. MS has also disabled the Insider Preview ISO download. They are testing their delivery system for all the people that have Windows (licensed and activated) and have signed up with the "Get WIN 10 Free" nag that is in the taskbar. All these people are activated windows users and will get updated with the final release shortly after July 29. WE are testing their delivery system for these 100's of million's of updates. They will want to see what the bugs are for the "update and automatically activate process" that is to come on the 29th. I do not think any MS Win10 new activations are currently possible.

    Clarification: As above, if you want to do a clean install of any version of Win10, it will probably install and probably work, but I do not believe you will be able to get it activated by Microsoft. Other methods of non-MS approved activation are obviously possible.
     
  9. akhmedtaia

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    try KMSpico v10.0.6 Alpha- for activate windows 10240
    it's good , i used it and it's Ok
     
  10. peck1234

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    #31 peck1234, Jul 16, 2015
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    Well I did i clean install and this was not the case.
    I don't understand why everyone is bugging tho?
    Windows Toolkit Activated me Fine..
     
  11. luke

    luke MDL Senior Member

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    I've never used a key just skipped it and never needed to activate any ways so this shows nothing lock this thread!
     
  12. osupka

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    #33 osupka, Jul 16, 2015
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    the activation must be tied solely to CPU serial number. It is the only component that does not break often (unless you overclock), and as it heavily depends on motherboard's socket, upgrading CPU means practically buying a new PC, and moving old components to the new one.

    Tying to other HWIDs would make PC non-upgradable.

    Is that verified? That would mean if for example your built-it LAN chip burns out, and you replace your MB through the warranty, you lose OS's $100 license. Quite stupid.
     
  13. Don

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    For 3 months they have said you will have to upgrade first and then do a clean install, there is nothing new in that and the key for your pro version or your embedded key in the bios will be "consumed" by the upgrade. That pretty much says you don't need a key unless you are buying a new $200 retail disk. I would just like to get hold of the real GA code so I could start the process.
     
  14. dangerouseddy

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    I think you could be right about the cpu serial number I would use it if I was ms, dunno when they started adding serial numbers to cpu's though.
     
  15. assbutt

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    They were doing back in the P3 days. Current CPUs don’t have a serial number.
     
  16. blued

    blued MDL Junior Member

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    Did clean install (no upgrade) of Win 10 Pro on formatted drive. Got several activation prompts during install process which I skipped. Installation done, works fine, but it is not activated. Do I input same key others are using or is KMS a better way? Thanks.
     
  17. garybb

    garybb MDL Novice

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    Joined the insider program when i was running windows 7 with daz loader upgrade to all builds then to 10240, made a iso from the esd. Done a clean install never logged into my ms account and skipped product key still says im activated.

    To good to be true ms must have something up there sleeve.
     
  18. ashoktvm

    ashoktvm MDL Addicted

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    I need some clarification. Which key i can use to activate version 10166 so that i can upgrade to 10240 later
     
  19. poppy10

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    There are no keys that will activate 10166 any more. They were all revoked last week when MS stopped the Insider builds.