News/Discussions On Windows Upcoming Products: W8.1Update-x;W365;WThreshold;Win9

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  1. BAV0

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  2. Hadron-Curious

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    Yes, you are correct. I mean to say a month and 8 days to go for the press release, while the general public will likely get the preview in October.
     
  3. arseny92

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    Not just programs, this includes the x86 system itself. If you install a x86 (or, more correctly, ia32) system on a processor that supports x64 extensions, due to the belief that it might be better "because you may have less than 2^32 GB of RAM", this is totally wrong, because since the system is ia32, it is being v86-emulated as a whole.
    Therefore my mom's laptop has x64 system installed despite only having 3GB of memory. It runs better on the x64 processor, than the ia32 system that it shipped with originally

    x64 systems have both ia32 (wow64) and x64 versions of all programs and tools for compatibility purposes. Say you have an old ia32 third party photo viewer app that has a "mspaint.exe %1" link in it for opening images for edit. IA-32 apps cannot access, nor see, neither use any resources available in the extended instruction set, so they cannot call 64-bit executables nor libraries, etc, and such a call would fail. Therefore the system makes it look for the app to think that it looks for mspaint.exe in system32, while unbeknownst to the app, redirecting the call to the SysWOW64 folder, where ia32 assemblies are located. Same for the Program Files (x86) folder, the Software\WOW6432Node registry hive, etc.
     
  4. Enigma256

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    Not emulated. Virtualized resources and environment. The instructions are still natively run on the CPU. The WOW64 virtualization behaves more like a compatibility shim than what most people think of as virtualization. Contrast that to mechanisms of running old 16-bit programs on the NT, where there was an actual virtual machine. With WOW64, a 32-bit program that is aware of WOW64 can request that these various compatibility shims be disabled, like the registry redirection and the file system redirection, at which point it's left to fend for itself as far as loading DLLs from the right path, etc.
     
  5. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    Yah I think we both meant virtualized when we were talking about emulation. I've been playing too many old video games on the PC. My lingo is off :)
     
  6. mario92

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    So, Cortana will very probably be available in Technical Preview.

    Also, new icons are deployed in recent builds.
     
  7. PaulDesmond

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    icons thing it mouth watering but you have proof, no?
     
  8. mario92

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    #2408 mario92, Aug 22, 2014
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    Unfortunately I don't have any screenshots to show, I only am forwarding what I was told from my source.
    I know I risk being named troll but I'll take that risk because I trust my source.

    Most of the icons are still Vista-like but it seems like shell32.dll icons are refreshed. Because even I didn't saw any visual evidence I can't tell how do they look like.

    EDIT: Of course, old icons are there because of legacy reasons.

    Brad Sams could've seen new icons in WTP.
     
  9. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    I still couldn't see the difference, I could upgrade win7 7600 to win7SP1 7601 thru WU, no? Also, I doubt if MS would release publicly the pre-release builds. :popcorn:

    Sorry, no. :p
     
  10. Hadron-Curious

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    #2410 Hadron-Curious, Aug 23, 2014
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    Perhaps. Technically, nobody really knows if Cortana will be on the developer preview.

    It would be wise to do that with imageres.dll than shell32.dll because most of the important icons are located in that particular direct link library.
     
  11. bdsams

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    The only icon I have seen in the WTP is the trash can...and it hasnt changed.
     
  12. ZacB

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    Incorrect. No new icons.

    Icons are usually one of the last things they implement, that's *if* they implement them. Last time I checked new icons wasn't in the plan for Threshold.
     
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  13. d1glow

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    #2413 d1glow, Aug 23, 2014
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    SirWzor,

    bla bla bla....."мы все ещё надеемся выпустить Win 8.1 Update 2 в первой половине сентября..." - это будет новая сборка

    действительно, превью билд Windows 9 собран, проходит обкатку у ряда OEM партнеров, в паблик будет предоставлена адаптированная сборка

    по планам Sign-Off Windows 9 RTM намечено до конца 2014 года ... известен лишь промежуток времени когда это может состоятся

     
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  14. NaiveUser

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    the actual rumor is: an event will be held on 30 Sept, Windows Technology Preview will be announced and introduced at the event, the actual bits may be released either at the event or shortly after, like early Oct.
     
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  15. d1glow

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    Seems like Microsoft has like 1001 projects going good grief.
     
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  16. d1glow

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    HERE WE GO! :D From Wzor

    в начале сентября MS намерена предоставить Windows 9 DP ряду партнеров и IT изданий, с этого времени возможны утечки прямо с серверов MS

     
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  17. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I think this 'technology preview' which is likely the same thing as 'developer preview' in Windows 8 is going to receive updates before the introduction of the 'consumer preview'. Of what benefit to Microsoft to release both of them when they are not so much different? For me, it consumes resources which could have been channeled to other activities perfecting things like BSOD and registry corruption in Windows operating systems from occurring in most cases.
     
  18. e.mote

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    Win9 will be on a much shorter time table than Win8, so I doubt there'll be a second public "preview," when RTM target is next spring.

    MS got burned because it ignored feedback to Win8, so this preview will be partly to get wide feedback, and partly as a PR show-of-force to prove that Windows is still relevant and kicking. Without something to show the public, Windows sales will be a massive disaster this coming holiday, likely worse than the previous two years. Sales will still crater, but the preview will at least give the userbase something to talk about, and to look forward to. MS' hope is that the buzz will carryover to drive Win9 sales next spring.
     
  19. TheSubaru2012

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    I will cry if the ISO gets deleted within a matter of days :(
     
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