News/Discussions On Windows Upcoming Products: W8.1Update-x;W365;WThreshold;Win9

Discussion in 'Windows 8' started by FaiKee, Jun 8, 2014.

  1. Alwiz

    Alwiz MDL Novice

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    Modern UI apps also lack a lot of functionality and there are still not enough good apps available.
     
  2. mimart7

    mimart7 MDL Senior Member

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    I have yet to download anything from the Store. Anything I get is usually directly from the devs site.
     
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  3. dsbig

    dsbig MDL Senior Member

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    just like when android was first released.

    going to take time for devs to catch up. also not everyone is using windows 8, so not really a big rush to push out apps.
     
  4. s1ave77

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    Lacking features can be assumed a minor issue i guess, thinking more about a missing file explorer and multimonitor setups ... the ridiculous 'All Apps' view in Start Screen needs 4 times the monitor size of my Full-HD 27' main screen, where as the Start Menu has a nice flyout that opens subfolders while hovering my mouse over :cool2:.
     
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  5. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    Modern UI is what happens when you're:
    a) Lazy to separate church from state err I mean mobile from desktop and;
    b) Think you know all and try to fix what ain't broken.
    Modern UI has no place on the desktop it's counter productive!
     
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  6. nexus76

    nexus76 MDL Addicted

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    #3386 nexus76, Sep 15, 2014
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    not only one

    I swear, I'm not using one single modernUI app since I got windows8.
    It's useless on a desktop and it looks ugly to me.
    Oh, and I hope they bring back the classic design for office PCs and older machines.
    Windows 7 was - just as "The Beatles - White Album" - a lucky punch but I bet it's hardly
    possible to repeat such a success.
     
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  7. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I personally like the modern UI. It has been exaggerated by many people as though there is actually something wrong with it idea by Microsoft to have both at the initial time than having the classic desktop only. I think it is up to people to make the choice to either choose to use it or leave it. I like the transition it provide a touch-based system users and desktop as well. Often than none, I enjoy it on my ultrabooks which are more or less hybrids in nature.

    It is aesthetic unlike the desktop and give you that feeling of appreciation of modernity because of its appealing nature to the eyes. I have seen much of the classic desktop and it is becoming more boring by the end of the day. I am not always against something new, most especially, when it gives you the choice to choose. In this case, Microsoft has done something wonderful and people fail to migrate in huge number due to complacency which is not to be blame on the modern UI at all.

    Seriously, I would have stop using desktop if the modern UI is not plan to be brought into it as feature in Windows 9.
     
  8. nexus76

    nexus76 MDL Addicted

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    #3388 nexus76, Sep 15, 2014
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    I think style and proportions of moderUI and desktop ist too different, on windows 8/8.1
    it's also a permanent jump between two worlds if you're going to use modernUI apps.
    most likely it will get a better experience with win9 but it's really not that I'll love it as much as my widgets on win7.
    the widgets were rounded and seamless but the tiles are comprehensive awkward.
    regarding the touchscreen experience I'd say: if you had an ipad then you got a pretty perfect os experience for touch devices.
     
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  9. beBoss

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    Modern UI for me is better then star menu. And yeah I also don't use windows 8 apps, but the start screen is cool, it's modern way to order you icons/shortcuts/tiles :)
     
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  10. Hadron-Curious

    Hadron-Curious MDL Guru

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    I quite agree with you in your view. But, as much as the transition process from desktop to touchscreens(tablets, ultrabooks and Windows Phones) is not difficult makes it a very good to embrace it. It doesn't require much from the kids to make use of it. There is lot it offer on the kids corner for seamless education and games purposes more than the desktop environment. I think the more people realize those the more they'll patronize the use.

    The reason why android is seen as good from that perspective, as to my little observation, is the icons are of regular shapes found in products instead of tiles. Indeed, the tiles distinguish Windows from the rest in that capacity. And, even in functionality there is nothing much to say about Android having the best. We have to wait and see what Windows have to offer in the apps area in the future. The Windows modern UI is a new feature and it is not expected to be perfect at this early stage.
     
  11. nrvpnchl

    nrvpnchl MDL Novice

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    I'm not saying that metro is best but desktop is too complex to use for a normal user.
    Take an example.How do you install a desktop app ? From developer's site ? DVD? How do you open an app ? From desktop shortcut? What if app it self don't create shortcuts ? How do you delete an app ? By deleting app folder from program files ? By deleting registries ? There's no any Universal method for doing this.
    That's where modern apps come. only one standard way to install, open and delete. They share common UI across them.
    And this all things are not for 10s of thousands of tech experts talking about software but its about 1.5 billion Windows users using Windows in their day to day life. They don't want visual studio running next to emulator. What they want is facebook chat while surfing internet or watching movie.
    Once again I'm not saying metro is the best thing. But Microsoft is improving Metro and we all can see this in leaked builds.
     
  12. s1ave77

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    Looks like they optimized it that far that it's not present in Desktop Installs of comming builds :cool2:. Even the worst noob among my friends is able to install common desktop programs and also finds them on desktop or in Start Menu ... not to mention all Win 8/8.x users of them use a Start Menu Replacement (although they might play crappy games in their desktop browser).
     
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  13. nrvpnchl

    nrvpnchl MDL Novice

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    I know most people can do that but How about improving things, being modern , making things consistence.
    That's the big deal., consistent UI across all apps.
     
  14. s1ave77

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    There's consistence ...:g: ... you must show me :cool2:. That UI might be nice on a 10'' tablet device, on a desktop multi-monitor setup it makes absolutely no sense.

    I'm using inverted Windows Theme (dark backgrounds with light text color) and starting any Modern-UI app is like switching on an additional lamp due to lots of white space with a few info chunks.
     
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  15. nrvpnchl

    nrvpnchl MDL Novice

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    I haven't used multi monitor setup, so can't say about this.
     
  16. win9fanatic

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    #3398 win9fanatic, Sep 15, 2014
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    Looks like someone will be disappointed by today's news. Windows vNext Tech preview event confirmed by Microsoft to be September 30.

    Looks like my guess of invites going out September 16 wasn't that far off either. ;)
     
  17. murphy78

    murphy78 MDL DISM Enthusiast

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    The problem is that it's just not polished for all different kinds of viewing devices.
    Like you said, it might look good on the 10" tablet.
    They spent so much time on their dpi scaling and such that they never tested it with people to see if they got it right.
    Maybe they did. *shrug*

    The problem with trying to put all of the information on the button instead of below the icon, is that you can only put so much info.
    The smaller the buttons get, the less info you can put.
     
  18. dippyweb

    dippyweb MDL Member

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    and where is the MS source of this news ? :) microsoft.com/ ????