News/Discussions On Windows Upcoming Products: W8.1Update-x;W365;WThreshold;Win9

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  1. arseny92

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    #1481 arseny92, Jul 31, 2014
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    FaiKee, don't confuse between builds from different branches and different milestones, even if they are
    a) recompilations of whichever root build to make room for a side branch off the one that gets split (e.g. 7106.0.winmain was actually a recompiled 7076.winmain, i,e. 7106's codebase was older than the followed 7077.0.winmain_win7rc) ;
    b) recompilations of derivative SKUs like phone, embedded etc. ;
    c) builds from different fbls, which don't have to be synchronized at all and can follow their own incrementing regardless of current winmain

    as for winbluephone_rtm there is a link to an archive that includes ntoskrnl.exe in the post (for those who may have misread it), yes, ntoskrnl by itself doesn't say much, but if we mass-list all files' versioninfo, then very most of them have the same build
     
  2. FaiKee

    FaiKee Misinformation spreader

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    Yup, I understand about that, actually winphone builds are mostly months behind win client builds, the thing that surprised me was it got a build no. 6.3.9651 (beyond 9622), before this I had thought it not to be possible, and I also thought winphone builds got their own numbering systems. :D
     
  3. arseny92

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    They have own numbering system as described in the earlier post linked above: the underlying OS is a derivative of Windows, which gets rebuilt (rebuilt as opposed to being recompiled) with phone-specific stuff as described
     
  4. FaiKee

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    #1484 FaiKee, Jul 31, 2014
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    About this rebuilt(or recompile) thing, I remember zukona made some lengthy explanations in torrents.ru on the win7 builds you mentioned, missed that good chap. :popcorn:
     
  5. Hadron-Curious

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    I thought as much. I am only tagging along with the bandwagon, who are bent on compliments for the claim without anything tangible evidence to prove it.
     
  6. Hadron-Curious

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    I agree with the idea that ntoskrnl.exe is not a fully reliable way to get the full information on the build. Having said that, I can't seem to find the best possible means of getting all the full information in one place.
     
  7. EFA11

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    #1487 EFA11, Jul 31, 2014
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    doesn't this give all that info?

    Code:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion 
     
  8. arseny92

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    #1488 arseny92, Jul 31, 2014
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    Nope, because the key only matches the build of the kernel.
     
  9. Hadron-Curious

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    That says it all. I think I am possibly the only one who sees it from that perspective not until you post this comment.
     
  10. s1ave77

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    #1490 s1ave77, Jul 31, 2014
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    To complete the 'confusion' an updated WIM shows:

    Code:
    Version : 6.3.9600
    ServicePack Build : 17056
    :cool2:.
     
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    #1491 Hadron-Curious, Jul 31, 2014
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    From that sense Windows build is relatively based on different component numbers while the version remains the same through out the whole system(6.3.9600). If I am correct 'build' in this regard is largely about compatibility reference.
     
  12. s1ave77

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    Would guess BuildLabEx and ServicePack Build from WIM are useful values when matching different states :g:.
     
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  13. mario92

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    As someone that's involved in MS I just got it out-of-the-box like that. No further questions from my side.

    However, there is one Windows x.2 that's available on MSDN.

    Capture.PNG

    :D
     
  14. EFA11

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    #1494 EFA11, Jul 31, 2014
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    and that would be simplified chinese version :D

    Code:
      File: SC_WINDOWS32_144.EXE
    CRC-32: b665654c
       MD4: 3cac0396417110588ade6b41d53b71d7
       MD5: afd883c7af6e7163daa82c66b1bc58f9
     SHA-1: 363c2a9b8caa2cc6798daa80cc9217ef237fdd10
    
      File: SC_WINDOWS32_12.EXE
    CRC-32: 1f155bc8
       MD4: a713f922b6348763434a4529d3086435
       MD5: d457da205b7a6a97ee318c4be51e6131
     SHA-1: 1d91ac9eb3cbc1f9c409cf891415bb71e8f594f7
    
    
     
  15. FaiKee

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    #1495 FaiKee, Jul 31, 2014
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    LOL, When MS announced "this and that will be available on the next version of Windows"; People spread all over the web "this and that will be on Windows 9" ........ :popcorn:
     
  16. maddog0266

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    Do you guys see the "renew or upgrade"
    If you have an account with MSDN the upgrade your account.
    Then request to join the beta test.

    Not sure how to take a snap shot of the page.
    And it is not Windows 9.
    It is Windows 8.1 update 2
    Sorry guys about that.


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  17. EFA11

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    clicking "PRT SCR" or "PRTSCR" on your keyboard will allow you to take a screen shot, then just paste and save it in ms paint or whatever as a jpg.
     
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    I am also a MS Partner. Both consumer and commercial.
     
  19. maddog0266

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    Thank you
    I will do that
     
  20. EFA11

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    congrats? lol