No more web browser for Windows XP (June 2018)

Discussion in 'Windows XP / Older OS' started by GOD666, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. GOD666

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  2. stirup64

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    I attempted to use (i have a LEGIT ISO Copy) Windows XP with Firefox 32bit versions AFTER v52 and works just fine.
    I have HOWEVER to do a trick or use other PC using other OS, like Linux or W7, to download the full setup EXE file or it keeps downloading v52.
     
  3. GOD666

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    Correct, you cannot exceed v52 if using Windows XP as the current ERS is v52. ERS stands for Extended Release Support. The ERS version is still being supported and updated.
     
  4. s1ave77

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    Still mostly confusing abbreviations :cool2:. It's ESR.
     
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    You know what my problem is... After a lifetime of products naming things Extended Release Support, it seems backward to call something Extended Support Release (although, perhaps it is more logical). I'll get it right eventually. :p
     
  6. pinkmoon89

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    It seems that Mozilla have made a lot of work in implementing Windows 7+ APIs in latest version of Firefox in order to stop mods for Windows XP. Hopefully the unofficial Pale Moon fork, New Moon for XP (on MSFN forums), will survive past mid-2018.
     
  7. GOD666

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    #7 GOD666, Nov 25, 2017
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    Palemoon and Waterfox are built from Firefox. Unless they decide to make their own browser, as opposed to continuing following Firefox's code, their extended support for the older API will also come to an end in June 2018. Further, if they do make their own browser they would also need their own add-on site as Mozilla has already officially stated that they will pull the plug on all discontinued add-ons on a yet to be determined date (rumor is early 2019). No matter what you do here on out, you are only delaying the inevitable.
     
  8. pinkmoon89

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    This netbook is 32-bit only. Looks like I'll have to throw it away in the middle of next year seeing as majority of Linux distributions have stopped 32-bit support and battery life on Linux is an absolute joke anyway...

    Also, I saw PM are having a successor built, which means that there is even less luck for XP users... :p
     
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    Don’t throw your netbook away. Try Linux Mint, it’s very similar to Windows 7. I’ve been using it for awhile now and really like it.
     
  11. pinkmoon89

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    I've tried Mint before and it felt pretty much the exact same as Ubuntu... I also tried Debian on here and the battery life was abysmal :(
     
  12. GOD666

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    #12 GOD666, Nov 26, 2017
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    Compared to Windows 10 with all the running apps in the background, Linux will outperform on battery. ;)

    Unless you have power management enabled via your BIOS in which case, you're comparing apples to oranges. Disabled BIOS power management, Linux will use less battery even when compared to a Windows system with it enabled.
     
  13. stirup64

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    There is a new Browser that besides many other OSs including "regular" Win32 and Win64 versions, they are compiling a specific version for Windows XP !

    otter-browser.org

    This people need ALL the support that they can get from us, the Last XP Jedi ! :p :D

    I gonna test it this weekend !

    Btw, it seems that i also figured out how i can "hack" Realtek HD Audio to support ALC1220.etc. in XP and already made a test to also "hack" AMD video drivers, i hope that i can "hack" GCN version of 14.4 (there's two versions of XP 1.4 , one is for GCN, the other is not) so it can make it work with upcoming AMD Raven Ridge APU, wish me luck :cool:
     
  14. the_soft45

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    Can you "hack" support for Tonga GPUs (aka the R9 285/380 GPUs with GCN 1.2)? That would really make my day :D
     
  15. stirup64

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    #15 stirup64, Dec 16, 2017
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    I believe it's possible, but because i have none of those cards i will direct my effort to APUs...ANYWAY, *IF* it eventually works with Raven Ridge APUs, i'm almost 100% sure that it will work also with those cards, because the principles are the same & RR it's even a more modern form of GCN...

    The work (attempt) will be done over driver 14-4-xp32-64-dd-ccc-pack3.exe
    (this is the XP one for GCN cards) using info extracted from whatever W7 (32bit if possible, if not, from 64bit) driver done by AMD for RR APUs, i might try to figure it out for your desired cards but you will have to be the Guinea Pig :p

    I can tell you right now from my experiments with converting 12.1 driver that supports only Lanno APUs (TeraScale 2 GPU) to support Trinity APUs (TeraScale 3 APU) that Catalyst Control Center will NOT work and can NOT be installed, more, you will have to install driver manually.

    As for CCC replacement, i used ATI Tray Tools 1.2.6.964, making sure that i selected to NOT make OC with it during installation....in the case of APUs some minor functionalities of ATI TT don't work like tell amount of Video RAM in use by iGPU or iGPU frequency but besides that, i can configure my graphical options just fine...and W/O CCC bloat :cool:
    Anyway, any iGPU OC, i usually do in BIOS, so, all good.
     
  16. AJSB

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    stirup64 was ..."dismissed"...i'm taking over from here :evil:

    Check this for me:

    Control Panel >
    System >
    Device Manager Tab (XP) >
    Display Adapters >
    [right click on your GPU]
    Properties >
    Details Tab >
    [select drop down box]
    [change field to HARDWARE IDs]

    Report to me values from HARDWARE IDs.
    Report ALSO values from COMPATIBLE IDs field.

    Make sure you don't make a single digit error or else all will be FUBAR.
     
  17. the_soft45

    the_soft45 MDL Junior Member

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    Wow, sounds serious :D
    Does it matter if I get those values from 8.1's Device Manager? :p

    Here you go:
    Hardware IDs
    Code:
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939&SUBSYS_E308174B&REV_F1
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939&SUBSYS_E308174B
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939&CC_030000
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939&CC_0300
    Compatible IDs
    Code:
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939&REV_F1
    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939
    PCI\VEN_1002&CC_030000
    PCI\VEN_1002&CC_0300
    PCI\VEN_1002
    PCI\CC_030000
    PCI\CC_0300
     
  18. AJSB

    AJSB MDL Novice

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    No further comment on that :innocent:

    Thanks for the values, can you check also values for 285 card that you also mentioned ?
     
  19. the_soft45

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    I only have the R9 380. I mentioned the R9 285 because it has practically the same Hardware ID of PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6939... It's the rest that differs.