[Not working anymore] How to upgrade from W7/8.1 without going through the complete upgrade process

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  1. endbase

    endbase MDL Guru

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    It is the generic key for windows home should work :tea:
     
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  2. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Guru

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    #322 Flipp3r, Jan 12, 2016
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    Hmm, I've tried again. I'm getting error 0x8007232B DNS name not found when running slmgr /ato...

    Blah, I've worked it out. That Home key is some volume/kms key. I needed to use default Retail key (8HVX7)...
    o_O
     
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  3. mdlgaofei

    mdlgaofei MDL Member

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    The version of my win10 is 10586.71. If microsoft upload the newer version,can I use this process to activate the newer version?
     
  4. bodmas

    bodmas MDL Senior Member

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    #324 bodmas, Feb 1, 2016
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    Yes, you can. The conditions are windows should be 10 regardless of its inner build numbers and before 29th July 2016.
     
  5. mdlgaofei

    mdlgaofei MDL Member

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    Don't I need to reinstall to win 7/8?
    Can I copy gatherosstate.exe to the desktop of win10 10586?And......
     
  6. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Guru

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    You only need to do this once. Your hardware ID will be on the MS Server so any new clean install you do will match & activate...
     
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  7. bodmas

    bodmas MDL Senior Member

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    win7/8 installation and then gatherosstate.exe process is one time. once you activated your windows 10 your system Hardware ID will be saved at MS Activation server. so, next time if you want to reformat your windows drive then you need to boot from the win10 DVD/USB and skip for the key and your windows 10 will automatically gets activated as soon as you connect to the internet.
     
  8. 83thomas

    83thomas MDL Novice

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    great info, thanks!
     
  9. disckxycb

    disckxycb MDL Novice

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    #329 disckxycb, Feb 19, 2016
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    Can anyone confirm that this works with Daz loader activated Win7? This is what happened:

    1. Install Win7 Ultimate and activate with Daz
    2. Validate online using IE - get genuine confirmation
    3. Use gatherosstate.exe to create GenuineTicket.xml
    4. Clean install Win10 Pro without going online
    5. Place GenuineTicket.xml in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket\
    6. Reboot
    7. Connect online and activate
    8. Get error saying "this key has been blocked"
    9. No activation

    I think there are three possibilities:

    1. Win7 wasn't properly validated online for some reason, maybe it needs all updates? SP1 was installed though
    2. gatherosstate.exe was from a later build of Win10? No idea if this is true
    3. Maybe MS really did figure out how to block daz loader from activating Win10

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: this happened on a ASUS laptop with Win10 Home preloaded
     
  10. Allo

    Allo MDL Member

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    #330 Allo, Feb 19, 2016
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    Last month, I did the same procedure as you on a laptop (preloaded with Vista Home) with Win7 ultimateSp1+Daz loader validated online and successfully activated W10 pro v1511.
    No need ALL updates;
    gatherosstate.exe from W10 v1511 ISO
    Just reboot, not need to run "slmgr /ato" ...

    EDIT: But yours ALREADY preloaded with W10 Home, may be MS Activation server already have your system Hardware ID saved with W10 home credential ???
     
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  11. disckxycb

    disckxycb MDL Novice

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    Maybe newer laptops with UEFI and Win10 preloaded can block the activation? Upgrading from Daz activated Win7 Ultimate does not yield Win10 Pro, it only allows "upgrading" to Win10 Home :confused: Does this mean the upgrade process somehow detects BOTH that Win7 Ultimate is not genuine, and that there is a Win10 Home license preloaded?

    Perhaps the Win7 drivers are to blame? Win7 did not recognize a number of devices (wifi, vid card, etc.), so perhaps the GenuineTicket.xml from Win7 did not match the machine detected by Win10.
     
  12. lostpassword

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    Think you must be right about hardware. I have gone from WIN7 Ultimate with DAZ loader to 10 PRO many times, as I have reinstalled about 10 times on my 2 PCS. I know some will say I am crazy, but if I am not happy with something I always wipe and start again. Last time on WIN 10, I could not boot with Paragon Partition Manager DVD on new SSD, tried to hit F12 but options would only flash up and go. Solved it with my favourite Killdisk booting to DOS. Ignore any complaints from Win 7 - sorts itself out. Always loads of complaints about drivers, and never ethernet never connects. Just run WIN10 setup DVD from WIN7 and it magically sorts everything out, including fairly old Epson Photo Printer 935 (ethernet starts working near the end of setup). That is why I think 10 is brilliant, and do not worry about the telemetry. If Bill comes knocking on my door with a big stick, I will post a change of opinion.
     
  13. Flipp3r

    Flipp3r MDL Guru

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    You should be forcing it to Win10 Pro. If you run setup it will just read the Win10 OEM:DM key in your UEFI & default to Home (Core)...
     
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  14. disckxycb

    disckxycb MDL Novice

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    How to "force" the upgrade to Win10 Pro? Clean install? Running the setup from Win7 Ultimate only gives one option - Win10 Home/Core.

    Also, has anyone gotten inconsistent results after activating Win7 with Daz? Validating online sometimes shows "windows could not be validated as genuine", but if the validation is re-run (with no reboots or updates or anything) then it would sometimes show as genuine. I would say about half the time it would show "windows could not be validated as genuine". Is this a problem?
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #335 Enthousiast, Feb 20, 2016
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    Running the setup from win 7 ultimate will give you 10 pro (only not on a branded system with an embedded windows 8.x Core/10 Home key, then you'll have to use the 10240 iso to upgrade to 10 pro and do a clean install using the 10586 iso combined with eiter a pro pid.txt or an appropiate ei.cfg).

    As far as the validation goes, my best experience is when you save the legitcheck.exe first and run it as admin, it works for me all the time.
     
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  16. AlexRuiz

    AlexRuiz MDL Novice

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    Where do I find the legitcheck.exe?
     
  17. Rusty69

    Rusty69 MDL Novice

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    It's actually legitcheck.hta
    I'm too young to post links, it's
    microsoft dot com/genuine/validate/
     
  18. malakoulis

    malakoulis MDL Novice

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    #338 malakoulis, Mar 13, 2016
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    I use 10586 isos at first clean install of windows 10 and it still works, no need the double work.

    Windows 7 pro/ultimate-> taking genuine ticket -> installing windows 10 pro 10586 updated february -> copying ticket offlice -> BAM magic happens, windows activate!
     
  19. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    #339 Enthousiast, Mar 13, 2016
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    So you don't have a win 8.x Core/10 Home oem:Dm embedded key on your system, read carefully ;)

    ps, enterprise is not pro, enterprise is not inside the free 10 offer.
     
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  20. malakoulis

    malakoulis MDL Novice

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    My mistake, i wanted to say ultimate, I'll edit my post. Also i read your post 3 times and I now realized that you say a completely different thing from what I understood the first time.