NT Backup from WS 2016 in Windows 10

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  1. abbodi1406

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    Which RSAT version you have?
     
  2. abbodi1406

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    Well, the separate RSAT package installs "RSATClient" update
    BLB-UI-Package require "RSAT" update, which is part of Server-Gui-Mgmt-Package

    i guess this close the case, BLB-UI can't be installed on client edition
     
  3. xinso

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  4. sebus

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    #25 sebus, Feb 5, 2018
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    It fails, yet it seems to be installed (but it is not)
    Code:
    E:\Download\en_WindowsServerBackup_14393>DISM.exe /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:.\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0.cab
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Processing 1 of 1 - Adding package Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    
    Error: 0x800f081e
    
    The specified package is not applicable to this image.
    
    The DISM log file can be found at C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
    
    E:\Download\en_WindowsServerBackup_14393>DISM.exe /Online /get-Packages
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Image Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Packages listing:
    
    Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0
    State : Installed
    Release Type : Feature Pack
    Install Time : 05/02/2018 11:12
    And dism.log shows:

    Code:
    DISM Package Manager: PID=11896 TID=10388 Package Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0 with CBS state 7(CbsInstallStateInstalled) being mapped to dism state 5(DISM_INSTALL_STATE_INSTALLED) - CDISMPackage::LogInstallStateMapping

    So something is definitely odd
     
  5. Micro

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    #26 Micro, Feb 5, 2018
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    Just a thought, but you may want to remove System Restore.
    I know the reason System Restore doesn't work in Windows Server 2016 is because it conflicts with Windows Server Backup.
    They both try to use shadow copies and somehow conflict with each other.
    Hope that helps.

    Edit: I meant to say that this would apply after you get Backup installed in 10 :oops:
     
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  6. jackmonter5

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    xinso,

    would you mind reploading the files for 16299 the link @ mega is dead.

    thanks!
     
  7. sebus

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    Sadly same error
     
  8. xinso

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    #29 xinso, Feb 6, 2018
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    Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package is WindowsServerBackupSnapin.
     
  9. xinso

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    #31 xinso, Feb 6, 2018
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    WindowsServerBackup packages are all Server package.
     
  10. sebus

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    Ofcourse they are!
    And the title of the thread is NT Backup from WS 2016 in Windows 10
     
  11. xinso

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  12. Micro

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    But does it actually work and restore?

    I ask because of my experience with Windows Server 2016.
    You are doing the polar opposite of what I have already done.
    I can install System Protection (System Restore) in Windows Server 2016 14393 along side Windows Server Backup.
    Everything looks right in System Protection (System Restore), it says it is making restore points, even shows them and allows you to select them to use, everything is normal in every way, UNTIL the actual point of restoration, then the program can not find the shadow copies or claims they do not exist, when you actually try to restore with them. o_O
    None of this affects the function of Windows Server Backup in Windows Server 2016 14393 though, it still functions as it should, hence my belief there is a problem with the shadow copies and my belief you may run into the same (but opposite) effect with Windows Server Backup installed in Windows 10.

    Just trying to save you grief, if you actually need one of those backups one day.
    Please actually try to restore with it to verify it works. ;)
     
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  13. xinso

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  14. Micro

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    Thank You. :D
    Just to confirm that I understand correctly Windows Server Backup works when installed in Windows 10, but we don't have a confirmation that System Restore continues to work once Windows Server Backup is installed?
     
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  15. xinso

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    Why? Windows Server Backup seems more efficient and flexible than System Restore.
     
  16. Micro

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    No, I don't think so.
    Let me preface by saying I use Windows Server Backup daily, as I use Windows Server 2016 as my desktop OS currently (but will be trying out PfW in about a month)
    The only real advantage I see to Windows Server Backup I see, is letting you designate where to put the backups, as well as designate individual files and folders to backup, so as a once a day server backup it works quite well.
    System Restore, though, makes backups automatically with driver updates, windows updates, software installs, etc. allowing quick restorations, without losing any data since the last daily backup, which is great for a desktop OS.
    That's why I'd like to see both working.
    What makes you say "Windows Server Backup seems more efficient and flexible than System Restore" ? :confused:
     
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    Microsoft Windows [版本 10.0.16299.194]
    (c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation。保留所有权利。

    C:\Windows\system32>Dism /image:D:\1 /get-CurrentEdition

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    当前版本为:

    当前版本 : Professional

    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>


    Microsoft Windows [版本 10.0.16299.194]
    (c) 2017 Microsoft Corporation。保留所有权利。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Online-Backup-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Online-Backup-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Online-Backup-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0-zh-CN.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Online-Backup-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-CN~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0
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    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0-zh-CN.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-CN~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    操作成功完成。

    C:\Windows\system32>dism /image:D:\1 /add-package:D:\WindowsServerBackup\Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package-amd64-10.0.14393.0-zh-CN.cab

    部署映像服务和管理工具
    版本: 10.0.16299.15

    映像版本: 10.0.15063.0

    正在处理 1 (共 1) - 正在添加程序包 Microsoft-Windows-BLB-UI-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~zh-CN~10.0.14393.0
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
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