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  1. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    The thought that the CMID might be encrypted had crossed my mind too, but i couldnt prove it and had no other indications.

    I wanted to mention it, but neglected to do so, and if i had mentioned it it hadnt made a difference anyway because there was no proof either way.


    On a general note; events like this make me think that we would have been way better off if we had all worked together as a team, you know, in a respectful way without animosities and/or snide remarks. I for one would have been glad to do so too - if the circumstances were different - because after all i am only one guy with limited time, and even though im very good at finding things and figuring things out i cant always be right on everything, especially with things like this, which need much time and testing as things may change from one try to the next for no apparent reason.

    But i am definitely not working with the likes of that letsgoaway guy, who has the nerve to speak of respect and whatnot after prying into my work and stealing whatever he considered useful. (Which BTW will be dealt with yet.) If someone else had found the PID thing 'per chance' by actually doing some work, like i did, then i still wouldnt have been happy about the fact that it became public, but i would have done my best to help working towards any possible enhancements, as you can see by my sharing of all i know in this very thread now that the method has become public anyway.

    But the circumstances are different and i therefore consider myself out of this discussion for now. Unless he gets banned i am not keeping to contribute in an environment where people who steal other peoples work are involved. As for Cody, i do hope you possess enough decency to credit me for my PID solution. Especially since it was taken from me without my consent.

    Good day everyone.
     
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  2. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    #2602 CODYQX4, Apr 3, 2011
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    You are credited in the most recent version for "KMS fixes" and there are 2 "KMS fixes" in play.

    You created the idea of changing the PID, but the second fix is to change the CMID and it was letsgoawayhell's idea to use a backup to get more CMID's than rearming would allow (and not require a total repair each time if we couldn't rearm, since a full repair was my main fix which inadvertantly. (Too bad this fix can't be used on windows since we can't restore on the fly).

    I agree that it would be better if we could all work together, because I think narrowing down the problem exactly is too much a process for one individual to take.

    One thing about your PID fix though, you start with ZWT PID and go to null if needed. I operate in the reverse since I didn't add a routine to null a PID in memory, only replace it (though coding it would be trivial). Is there any difference or reason to change this? I've noticed that changing the PID from null to ZWT if null fails to make null work later in some tests where you said it was very unlikely in your Fix Me mode that ZWT would still fail afterwards.

    EDIT: I forgot you said activation gives one rearm which you use to unlock ZWT. My implementation just always uses the changed PID. I may want to add an option for people who would rather rearm than use a null PID always.
     
  3. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    Hi Phazor, through my perspective Hell did error in de-compiling and exposing your code knowing you wanted it to be kept secret because it was your actual work that was in discovery of eliminating persistent error you guys are dealing with. With that said I don't believe an ban is necessary. I think what has happened is that the respect and honor for dev's has been missed in this incident. After that hard feelings understood and respected for your work with KMS is massive and you are very helpful. I still wish to see a way past this issue of a Dev's work and efforts being not respected to whatever degree. Please both of you pm me and if we can all be bigger dudes I'd like to see this matter come to ending with both parties attuned to eachother and the bigger picture to dev the best KMS solution (s) which is what MDL is a flagship for

    I hope I have spoken neutrally and acknowledged all parties equally

    Again Phazor I really like to see you dev further here and not leave due to error in how programmers/devs should respect eachother which apparantly an error has occured regarding respect for people here who actually do threads and drive with good intentions to support a solution being developed

    :shisha:
     
  4. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    #2604 Phazor, Apr 3, 2011
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    Well Cody, there is something i would like to know from you and there is something i could tell you (why i do FixMe the way i do) but i would go against my own principles if i kept contributing here before goaway has been banned.

    So lets just wait and see what the staff does - unless something about the situation changes dramatically i see that as a 'its him or me' matter. I want nothing to do with a place where others can steal my work and even publish parts of it against my express wishes without having to face the proper consequences. I will talk to Yen about this. We will se how he decides.



    PS: I deeply regret that it is you who - sort of - suffers the consequences now because i think youre an honest developer who merely took the chance to make his app better for the users. Although, a little support would have been nice. I know i would have supported you if somebody had stolen any work from your app. (Which BTW can still happen if things are allowed to continue in this manner.) The same of course goes for everyone else and their apps. This whole thing CANNOT function without proper respect.
     
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  5. CODYQX4

    CODYQX4 MDL Developer

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    Minor bugfix/AutoKMS windows improvement update pushed. If V2.1.3 is working fine for you and you aren't going to use AutoKMS on windows without office, no need to update.
     
  6. timesurfer

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    I am glad you are still here for at least one more post and yea Cody is 99% king of cool so it would be nice to see his/this thread be a reflection of his "coolness" :cool:

    It has been clearly stated that Hell could have better dealt with his interest in your code and thus respected thereof! I cannot however force anyone to respect or apologize when they have errored against another member

    I have to use free will to allow us to make mistakes and hopefully with potential apologies we can grow from this and set up better understandings and rules as to what a dev deserves in terms of respect of one's code and efforts even ideas

    I hope it doesn't have to be a him or me thing. We are pretty capable here at MDL in many ways, shapes and forms so I'm reaching deeply within myself to rectify this matter and add some further knowledge that all members must cohere to regarding respect for dev ideas and codes that we share

    I am open to both parties here staying in communication and if a miracle might present it self ideally a resolve could commence and ultimately an example or "case" could be laid a foundation for as to future respect of dev's and their works

    I am here for all parties for the duration of this matter and I hope as of this moment the best of us can come forth and resolve what seems inresolvable but in our infinite creativity I hope an attunment can take place

    If not then I respect your choice Phazor and I will miss you greatly

    You are MDL and you with that you deserve respect as do all dev's here including our helpers and such

    Peace out :shisha:
     
  7. Phazor

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    TS, i appreciate your efforts to moderate, its what youre supposed to do.

    But i also know that in actuality you think as i do. Everyone does. After all nobody would want their work stolen, and if somebody did they would be pissed off just as i am and wanted to see the guy in question removed so it doesnt happen again just as i do.

    Like i said in the other thread; imagine id rip apart Dazs Loader and published his encryption method for the whole world to see. This would be unheard of, and its no different from what has happened here. (Even if in this case i even had the idea before him.)

    The question is: Does MDL condone or condemn such actions. Thats what it all boils down to. Your forum is what you make of it. Allow for some to disrespect others and you might as well shut the place down. Because once the troublemakers have pissed off everyone they will be all who are left. Others wont join or leave for fear that the same might happen to them. Take it from somebody who is Admin himself...
     
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  8. letsgoawayhell

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    #2608 letsgoawayhell, Apr 3, 2011
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    You know what Phazor?! You developed PID idea, I developed null CMID idea and put togheter that CMID/PID combination thing. We are in the same footsteps here! But you are rude dude. Just look at your posts and judge yourself. If you asked me to remove your decomposed LocalHost, do you really think that I would not have done that? Do you really think that I wanted to disrespect a fellow contributor? I guess CODYQX4, timesurfer and everyone else that started this with me can tell that my intention has never been to disrespect a developer. I accept that I made a mistake by making your decomposed LocalHost public. I never put myself in your shoes. I DO apologize for putting it up and I am ready to remove it upon your request. But it does not mean that I am not angry with your way of speaking. We were not in a fight dude, you could have simply asked. I would have prefered to be friends with you. I like talented guys.
     
  9. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    You dont have to.

    We have rules and we have common sense and both dictate that he has to go because he did what nobody should EVER be doing in a place like this.

    I mean imagine what happens to this place if this becomes common behaviour? I hack your tools, you hack mine, everyone steals from everyone until everyone is so pissed off that everyone leaves?

    The attitude will be 'If he can get away with it then so can i'.

    Its a death warrant for a forum, believe me...
     
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  10. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    #2610 timesurfer, Apr 3, 2011
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    I think it is me in the moderation circle that understands this the best. Daz as well since we at different levels are both dev's and we have both run into matters of respect and jealousy towards our developments;)

    In ideal visualization indeed MDL does not condone such actions. I think personally we mods/admins need to take these occasional matters more seriously but how can we when generally speaking only Daz and myself are dev's. Similar matters have transpired and been dealt with eventually but I myself would like a rule or ethic here at MDL to be better known and followed thus MDL is to be a safer place for us to express our creativity when we find hole in MS products we create solutions for

    Like I said I can't force anyone to apologize but it seems appropriate for me as an initial answer to this particular incident but mostly I want to respect your wishes to engage MDL or not. Then at least respect will be the final thing you experience here from at least me and probably a few others.

    If you'd like to help define an new rule regarding how all members' should without error treat eachother I would be up for consideration otherwise we have this rule to deal with in the present

    Which to me is really the Golden Rule which may be religious but still has some common reason to it regardless for the average dude
     
  11. Phazor

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    Well, thats a start.

    But i will have to think about this.

    Im too pissed off to make a decision now.
     
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    letsgoawayhell MDL Senior Member

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    #2612 letsgoawayhell, Apr 3, 2011
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    Don't forget that you should apologize for your rude behavior too.
    And don't make it sound like I am asking for your mercy. ;) It's a friendly apology for putting up your decomposed tool.
     
  13. timesurfer

    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    We are in no hurry to do anything so take your time and allow yourself to continue to feel however you are

    True Phazor was highly upset but sometimes we have to understand that if he'd not been bypassed regarding respect for his wishes he'd never had been upset

    I live in very rough hood but at the end of the day it is the person who initiated any respect discrepancies that is the one who is remembered who started things so maybe even though Phazor is quite upset he was not for no reason ;)

    Respect to both of you dudes :shisha:
     
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    As I said in the past, If a CMID/PID combination causes keygen to persist on the bug, then It cannot be solved. You have to change one of them.
     
  15. ljprg

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    Hello friends!

    Is there a way to make a Office 2010 iso pre-activated? :confused:

    Can't find solutions anywhere. :(
     
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    timesurfer MDL Developer

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    I do believe Cody's latest build does support integration/switches but you'll still need to create exceptions in AV, etc...
     
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    Thanks. Going to check it out!

    If anyone knows a way please feel free to share with us!
     
  18. Phazor

    Phazor MDL Expert

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    You gotta be kidding.

    I mean you dont seriously expect me to apologize for being rude when my only reason for being rude was your blatant disrespect towards me?

    The notion alone has me doubt your mental sanity...


    Also that generous 'offer' to delete the unpacked files...dont you think it is your fricking damn obligation to do so ASAP regardless of whether i tell you to do so or not?

    You know that i have a problem with it so what more do you need? A formal request?

    It sure is bad enough that your lack of common sense made you fail to realize that you should have left my app alone in the 1st place...


    And so much for the sincerity of that 'apology'.

    Stupid remarks embedded in the attitude that i should be glad that i received an apology at all.

    Sorry, but i wont have anything to do with the likes of you. You are the worst thing that can happen to a forum like MDL and therefore i will see to it that you be removed from this community or i go myself...
     
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    Phazor MDL Expert

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    #2620 Phazor, Apr 3, 2011
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