OFFICIAL Apple Mac Troubleshooting for Windows 7 Loaders

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by pilot76103, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Barrym

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  2. PeterHolbrook

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    I agree with you. ZSMIN is a genius. Tell me something though, were you ever able to activate Vista (I mean Vista, not Windows 7) on your Mac Pro using VistaLoader? If so, which Loader? I take it for granted that your Vista resided in a disk of its own (with all the usual, GPT, NTFS, etc.).

    By the way, not that it is terribly important, but are your hard disks recognised as AHCI by Windows or are they in Legacy mode? On my system, having them perform as AHCI require an MBR hack, plus the change of a Windows key in the registry, plus the installation of certain Intel drivers, but I've done all that in the last few days. The inability to activate Vista via a Loader is much, much older.

    I'm looking forward to the arrival of a new SATA disk in which I'll install W7.
     
  3. ifeife2

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    #283 ifeife2, Aug 30, 2009
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    During my testing of zsmin's grldr I activated vista with no problems. Partition format was 2 partitions: HFS+, NTFS. I used normal method of partitioning using Bootcamp from OS X.

    Don't forget to use SLIC Dump toolkit to see if SLIC is being properly emulated. Then if YES (means your loader is working), proceed to install OEM certificate and then lenovo or other OEM Ultimate key.
     
  4. virplay

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    What did u use for the loader? 7loader 1.5.exe?
     
  5. EroSpartan

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    Works great on my 2008 iMac!
    Thanks zsmin and Hazar!
     
  6. ifeife2

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    Use any hazar loader then replace only the grldr file. Then you're done. Just follow the instructions included with the beta zmnin loader.
     
  7. P40L0

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    Did someone tested it with Snow Leopard Retail? :D
     
  8. virplay

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    Can you tell me , please, where to get the best hazar loader, and how to activate on my macpro? :) Can u plase?
     
  9. Barrym

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    #289 Barrym, Aug 30, 2009
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    I could activate Vista using Vistaloader but on RARE occasions it would say not activated. If I rebooted again it would say activated. Go figure!

    On this occasion I activated Windows 7 using Hazar's 7loader 1.5.exe and so far it has been activated on every boot but now with ZSMIN's grldr it loads so much faster. With ZSMIN's latest Grub Loader hopefully this will overcome the unstable activation problems.

    How do I tell if my hard disks are recognised as AHCI? I am using the latest Western Digital and Seagate SATA drives and with Snow Leopard drivers they are all accessible through Windows 7 without any further patches.
     
  10. PeterHolbrook

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    #290 PeterHolbrook, Aug 30, 2009
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    As far as I can tell, all SATA disks are recognised by Intel Macs as AHCI disks, but that's only in Mac OS X. It appears that, for the convenience of Boot Camp users, Apple decided that if a non-Mac partition is chosen to boot, the SMC switches the disks to IDE (legacy) mode, so, when Vista or Windows 7 boot, they only see an IDE disk, not AHCI, and you can't install AHCI in a system that has booted from non-ACHI disks! The only "easy" fisk I'm aware of is a hacked Master Boot Record (for XP, Vista and Windows 7) made by johnsock (look it up in Google). It's a script that you need to run as a superuser from the Terminal (Mac OS X). (Basically, the hack consists in having the MBR switch the disks back to AHCI mode.) Then, from the Windows end, you need to change a key of the registry. Then, the next time you boot into Windows, it'll detect the ACHI disks and install a badly written driver from Microsoft. Then you can download the good stuff from Intel. In a couple of boots after that, you have AHCI disks for Windows.

    Be aware, though, that if you implement johnsock's hack, you MIGHT lose activation, as that hack may interfere with the MBR call to grub.

    If you want to see if your Windows 7 sees AHCI disks now, do the following: Start Button -> Right click on Computer -> Manage, then continue. Device Manager on the left, open IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers on the right. If the last one says "Intel(R) ESB2 SATA AHCI Controller", Windows can see AHCI; if not, you are in IDE mode, which is not that bad.
     
  11. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    Well well.
    I used Windows 7 Loader Version 1.5 by Orbit30Hazar
    It worked perfect, only with the 45 segs blinking cursor. What can I do to fix that delay?

    I read this on the newloader_beta4
    3. Copy my replacement grldr to the root of your Windows partition. You will
    need to overwrite the grldr already present (Hazar's).
    4. You may optionally (recommended) also copy grldr_hazar_original as a backup.

    Is this what I need to do?
    But where are those files in my windows 7 partition?
     
  12. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Copy grldr to the same folder as bootmgr
     
  13. PeterHolbrook

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    grldr is a system, read-only, hidden file, and it's in the root of C:

    In the following explantation, I'm going to assume that you've placed the new grldr on your desktop and that your user's name is virplay.

    Open a Command window as administrator and enter:

    C:
    CD\
    attrib -h -r -s grldr
    ren grldr grldr.hazar
    copy C:\Users\virplay\Desktop\grldr
    attrib +h +r +s grldr

    You are done.
     
  14. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    mmmh, ok, I will try it. Hope no to destroy all :eek:

    Thx
     
  15. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    Can I do it on my mac?, If I open my Win 7 drive in mac finder, I can see some of those "file" (bootmgr, grldr).
    I attach here a jpg file

    Thx
     

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  16. ifeife2

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    Most macs have read only NTFS access. You need NTFS-3G or Paragon NTFS for write access.
     
  17. PeterHolbrook

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    Yes, as ifeife2 explained, you can if you have write access to NTFS disks in OS X. If you do, simply rename grldr to grldr.hazar, copy the new grldr to the root of your Windows partition and it should just work. Then, when you boot into Windows, simply open a Command window as administrator and enter:

    C:
    CD\
    attrib +h +r +s grldr

    This is only to make it normally invisible to Windows Explorer, but its functionality won't change a bit.

    If you don't have write access to NTFS from OS X, follow my previous instructions.
     
  18. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    Thx a lot (gracias :)). my english is not so good and what I undersand is:

    I rename grldr to grldr.hazar in my win 7 partition.

    Then I copy the new grldr (from newloader_beta4) to my Win 7 partition (in the same root as the old grldr

    Then, I boot into Windows, simply open a Command window as administrator and enter:
    C:
    CD\
    attrib +h +r +s grldr
     
  19. PeterHolbrook

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    That's right. That's the way to do it. By the way, you are most welcome (de nada :)).
     
  20. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    Gracias :)

    Ok, now I have two grldr in my Win 7 partition :p

    The old grldr rename to grldr.hazar
    And the new grldr from newloader_beta4


    But now how do I open a Command window as administrator? :rolleyes:

    Sorry for so many questions
     

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