OFFICIAL Apple Mac Troubleshooting for Windows 7 Loaders

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by pilot76103, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. PeterHolbrook

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    Ah! That's what I thought! I haven't checked myself on my Mac Pro yet (I need a new hard drive which should arrive on Wednesday), but I knew that ALL grub loaders failed to activate certain top-of-the-line machines (Mac Pros, Dell towers, etc.). Apparently, that was due to the way the original grub was implemented. It didn't take into account the peculiarities of the AHCI architecture. Depending on the order assigned to the various bays at startup, chances were that Windows would detect the computer as a different one relative to the one that had been activated. Having bays 1 and 2 recognised in that order, and activating Windows in that arrangementis VERY different from booting up from a computer where the order of bays is 2 - 1. A "different" computer; therefore, an activation no longer valid.

    Apparently, not only has zsmin's loader managed to bypass HFS recognition, but it also successfully handles these machines' architecture, so that they will look the same to Windows boot after boot. If so, not only is this grub great news for all Mac Pro users. It may well solve the problem of all top-of-the-line machines for Dell and Compaq users! If this hunch is confirmed, the new grldr should be used as the default for ALL Windows machines, not just Macs.
     
  2. driftinwind

    driftinwind MDL Novice

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    zswin, thank you so much. Your patch solved the boot delay problem on my first gen Macbook Pro (mbp 1.1), and the windows 7 remained activated.

    However, after replacing the grldr, i found my macbook pro cannot wake up from sleep or hibernate. Instead, it will automatically restart or halt with blackscreen until I press the power button to shut it down. Then I switched back the original grldr, the sleep/wake functions normal.

    anyone has the same experience, or it just happened to me only ?
    (I used the chinese act*vator by pskys to activate the win7, the grldr file size is 168 kb. I attached this file here)
     

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  3. paulotex

    paulotex MDL Novice

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    I have a MBP with the new loader and sleep seems to be working fine. I've only tried it twice though.
     
  4. PeterHolbrook

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    That is only for YOUR setup. If people were to follow your advice for other bootloaders, they would end up with a non-booting Windows! It appears that some hackers have been unconsiderate enough to rename their particular flavour of grubloader and alter the MBR as necessary for their whim. An unmodified MBR calls bootmgr; a grub-modified MBR should call grldr, which, in turn, will call bootmgr when it finishes. Other names are uncalled for and can only bring confusion in their wake.
     
  5. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    He had w7ldr because he has used the untermesnch loader.
     
  6. virplay

    virplay MDL Junior Member

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    I want to thanks a lot for the loader and the newloader beta4.

    I followed all the steps, and now it works perfect!!!!!:D

    Thx Thx Thx, gracias gracias :D
     
  7. ripcord01

    ripcord01 MDL Junior Member

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    driftinwind,
    Your symptom seems like coincidence to me. It has nothing to do with the new loader. Sometimes I've noticed if for instance the laptop doesn't have enough juice (batteries low) it won't come out of sleep. So make sure your power adapter is connected since that has always worked with getting my MacBook Pro to come out of sleep mode when it's been temperamental.
     
  8. Daz

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  9. zsmin

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    #311 zsmin, Aug 31, 2009
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    You should just need to click "Request download ticket" at the top left and then "download" when the page refreshes. No sign up needed. Is that not working?
     
  10. Daz

    Daz MDL Developer

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    I just get the message
    Then a quick
    Then it redirects to sign up.

    Thanks for the mirror :)
     
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  11. tuvi123

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    zsmin-
    Can you also try to add some improvements/modifications to GLRDR for regular Desktop pc's?
     
  12. zsmin

    zsmin MDL Junior Member

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    What kind of improvements are you thinking of?
     
  13. PeterHolbrook

    PeterHolbrook MDL Addicted

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    zsmin can do and has undoubtedly done a lot of things, but, what on earth keeps you from using his beta bootloader, as it is now, in a regular PC? It seems to me that if it runs on an Intel Mac, it will run on a PC. It seems that zsmin's loader can successfully activate even Mac Pros, so chances are it'll also activate Dell towers and other top-of-the-line PCs.
     
  14. sharptooth

    sharptooth MDL Novice

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    Thank you zsmin for beta5
     
  15. tuvi123

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    zsmin
    the sleep issues that also happen on regular desktop pc's.
    mabye there are also other things you can improve.
     
  16. ripcord01

    ripcord01 MDL Junior Member

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    zsmin,
    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think your new loader would have anything to do with these sleep issues.
     
  17. P40L0

    P40L0 MDL Senior Member

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    Who cares of sleep mode on Windows? You've a MAC :D
    Use Windows 7 only for Gaming, and Snow Leopard for everything else, sleep mode included... ;)
     
  18. zsmin

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    There's a chance that something could be getting overwritten. There's not much room and I have to be very careful.