Welll, yeah. That's very true. The argument is that it's easier to patch, but really, it's more fear of the unknown. People have used Loaders since the Vista days and they trust them. This is a relatively new method and people aren't so sure, is all. Also, watch this space for updates
??????? Good God, Guys.... Why aren't you simply happy that both work? If our MS friends find a way around one of them, is it not good to be aware that both work?
I did not want to start a war here... I was only trying to say that the Loader from Daz do less "harm" to your system, and works very well. RemoveWat works also, but make more changes to your system. And it do not pass MS Validation. So for the long term, people using RemoveWat will miss some updates, because it's not validated. I used RemoveWat before, but now I'm using the Loader from Daz, and are very happy. Other people are happy with RemoveWat, and I respect that. And I do not say that Hazar not do a good job, kudos to you Hazar for RemoveWat.
what happens if your so special DAZ loader doesnt work for people? like me removewat allows me to boot my pc where the DAZ loader fails over and over again.
From what I've seen the current stable (1.7.9) has far less problems than ODIN and in comparison has less to worry about when it comes to WAT updates or Windows updates. And I've asked you for debug information 2 times and each time you have failed to supply it. How is a machine specific issue supposed to be fixed if you won't provide whats required to fix it? The only reason I've commented here is because you're quick to say it doesn't work with nothing to show as to it not working on your system. There are millions of people using version 1.7.9 and I get very few complaints, 1.8 is in testing stages so it's natural for that to have issues but theres absolutely nothing wrong with 1.7.9.
and as ive said in your thread your loader doesnt work and it doesnt matter what version it is i cant boot into windows the "R" button doesnt work what so ever and MDL has one version of ODIN while the version i see work better than your loader (ODIN 1.2.1) lets me boot windows. And no im not quick to say it doesnt work i understand that it does work for some people but the person i was talking to (NOT DAZ) said it works better than RemoveWAT and everyone should use your loader. what happens when your loader doesnt work for people? what happens when RemoveWAT works better than your fanboys think?
He didn't actually say it's better, he pointed out that if your using my loader then you don't have to play around with system updates. The guy made a suggestion and that makes him a fanboy how? When the loader doesn't work I require debug information and theres plenty of ways to supply it, either from the loader itself or applications such as SLIC Dump Toolkit and telling me a little about your setup and hardware always helps. Of course theres always some systems the application won't work on and in them situations I recommend the user an alternative, check my previous posts if you find that hard to believe.
I don't actually see any fanboyism. If the developer, in this case Hazar has had a dead link and has not talked allot about what hes working on then thats going to cause speculation. People want to gain activation and others tell them how, now just because the suggestion isn't one that you may have given doesn't make that user a fanboy. There are millions of people who use my application with success, it's well known to cure the WAT issues some users have had too. Heck even some BIOS modders recommend it for quick installation of serials and certificates. Hazar's RemoveWAT has success of it's own too but it's a totally different type of activation solution when compared to a loader. All I see here is people saying they want to use things like MSE and then someones telling them they can't unless they change their activation solution, that currently (until Hazar puts out an update) is the fair truth.
Guys, I want to know whether after using RemoveWAT, i am able to download applications from microsoft's download center and pass the WGA validation? I installed windows 7 ultimate N and it doesn't include windows media player so i decided to download it from microsoft's download center.
Indeed. I kinda often see Daz suggessting people to look for alternatives in his thread when he confirm that Daz's windows 7 loader will not work on that particular machine.
No, thats the problem with RemoveWat, you can not pass validation on the MS site, so you can not download programs like Microsoft Security Essentials, XP Mode etc. If you want that, you need to use a Loader.
Just as a noob here, I have been looking at different activation solutions and playing with them and testing them. To me, the most communicative and interactive developer on here is Daz. He acknowledges people, wants to know what their problems are and asks for debug information, and lets you know what he's tried to fix. Hazar seems quite active in the various threads but it is less clear to me what he's doing on RemoveWAT and what issues have been fixed/working on, and so forth. Of course, this is just a subjective perception. But to say Daz loader 'fails in most ways' is clearly BS. That seems a very system-specific statement, which makes me glad I don't have that system, plus I don't appreciate the prejudiced undertone in the post by that person. Something else is clearly behind that that has nothing to do with the loader. If a developer goes out of his way to try to fix your problem but you're more comfortable having his loader fail on your system because of the way you 'feel' that is just immaturity. Immature people are usually young, and their parents pay their rent. I've had success with both Daz loader and RemoveWAT but prefer to use Daz loader personally. You like Adobe, I like Foxit reader, so what? Just don't spread lies and prejudice and appreciate the people developing stuff.
What problems are you talking about? I don't know any case where ODIN failed and Windows did not activate... but if you have improvement suggestion just post