[OUTDATED / UNSUPPORTED] RemoveWAT

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  1. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Interesting, but still my only issue remains. having to run WU once with sppsvc.
     
  2. BOX-

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    Checking updates...x86 GOOD with 9 + 36 optional languages after grace period.
    Notepad, Paint, Control Panel, WU -->> No nag and no watermarks on desktop.

    Let me repeat it on x64 and I will post the shortcuts.

    There is no need to run before. You can download the [KB974431] directly from MS and install it before the first update.

    Do you have TeamView?? I want you to see my screen.
     
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  3. Mr Jinje

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    #483 Mr Jinje, Oct 29, 2009
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    Sounds like you are saying is all he needs to do is include the KB974431 and run it with /QUIET /NORESTART and run that before RemoveWAT runs, and he will be golden.

    Code:
    start /wait %~dp0KB974431.msu /quiet /norestart
    Is that all it takes. Does it work with any of the smaller updates, or does it have to be this updates (15 MB)
     
  4. BOX-

    BOX- MDL Novice

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    #484 BOX-, Oct 29, 2009
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    Hazar and Mr Jinje,
    Here are the instructions and commands to make Win7 Trial Forever.

    1. Make sure no mod. (Run [sfc /scannow] Admin to check if your are not sure.)
    2. Download and install [KB974431]. (Not necessary for this test. See Note A)
    3. Set PC clock to when Win7 is genuine.
    4. Run these commands below in a bat file as ADMIN:
    Code:
    net stop sppsvc
    SC CONFIG sppsvc start= disabled
    SC CONFIG sppsvc start= auto
    net start sppsvc
    net stop sppsvc
    SC CONFIG sppsvc start= disabled
    pause
    5. Set clock to current time. Log Off/On or Restart PC.
    6. Then do WU.
    7. If you want to UNDO, run the following commands:
    Code:
    SC CONFIG sppsvc start= auto
    net start sppsvc
    Note A: [KB974431] is currently the only update that requires sppsvc to be Auto/started. If you run into any updates that failed to install, just do #7, update again, and then repeat Step 3-5.


    I have done this 8 times now and in both the x86 and x64 (first update after the grace period) in get 9 + 34 optional languages + Windows Live + Silverlight. :D

    Added: This is old.
     
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  5. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    BOX Just FYI you can do a rearm instead of setting the clock back ;)
     
  6. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Again Box no solution for an offline install, I can't integrate a 15mb patch :O
     
  7. BOX-

    BOX- MDL Novice

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    Yes, but it would be a waste. Rearm might come in handy later when MS figures this out.

    Just let people know to install [KB] first via download or WU. There will be more updates like this one that requires sppsvc to be started. When sppsvc starts, you have to repeat the entire process (less than 30 seconds.)
     
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  8. Robert Cartman

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    #488 Robert Cartman, Oct 29, 2009
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    Isn't it possible to replace te Windows Update icon in the Control panel with a custom sortcut, that does the following:

    -undo (like step 7)
    -check for windows updates
    -install updates
    -step 3-5

    I thing this would be great
     
  9. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Ok guys, 1.7 is out with a brand new method! (thanks to box, i had the idea but he made it work ;) )

    Read the notes inside the archive!
     
  10. BOX-

    BOX- MDL Novice

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    Yes, any thing is possible but the time it takes to make a patch that does that is not worth the effort when a solution is simple.
    Here is where the complications come in.
    1. Need to figure out the correct date when Win7 is genuine. (I suppose you can just rearm. What if he has no rearm left?)
    2. Was the KB installed yet? If not, how would you make him install it. (I would freak if a patch wants to install a 15mb file on my pc.)
    3. This patch that you make must be flexible in every PC with Win7.

    The best patch is the one that doesn't use any.
     
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  11. Stannieman

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    it would be easy if windows update had a command line interface, but of course it hasn't...
     
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  12. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Well I prefer to tell the user to do certain things, it gives them more control. Maybe they don't want that update?

    But I think it's working great ATM ;)
     
  13. Stannieman

    Stannieman MDL Guru

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    With a checkbox "do you wand to install kbxxxxxx before patching?" and a more info about update button the user has control.
    But that's indeed to much hassle and with no WU command line the patch would be to big. Just imagine that you have to include a whole sp1 after it comes out:p
     
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  14. Rudi1

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    Thank you for the update Hazar!I am read your instructions but I still do not understand the case fully.If we slipstream this KB974431 update to the iso,can we use the /S SWITCH option then?:confused:
     
  15. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Yes, You need to slipstream it if you want to use the /s switch ;)

    otherwise you won't be able to install that update when the system is installed.
     
  16. BOX-

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    #496 BOX-, Oct 29, 2009
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    Actually, I had the idea too but got stuck with the WU as you did. I just couldn't get out of the loop. (Getting stuck in a loop is a bad thing.) Sometimes great minds think alike.

    Any how, here is my benchmarks for success, in order of priority:
    1. Pass [SFC /SCANNOW]. (I didn't even check, yet.)
    2. Successfully apply [ALL] Updates. (ify on this one)
    3. The genuine and licensed status using the MGADiag. (just the genuine but not the "licensed")
    4. The genuine logo in system control panel. (NA for a trial license.)

    Well, I believe I am done here. cr**king Norton/BitDefender/Kaspesky/GData/F-Secure/Avira/DefenseWall/Eset/Sunbelt/Webroot/OnlineArmor/ and other programs takes a toll on the brain and I didn't even got a chance to properly rest yet. Now would be a great time. I'm going to study how Napalum rearm Win7 indifinitly. But first, I must rest. Good night all.
     
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  17. MrXSpekta

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    I'm a bit loss now, haven't been able to keep up to date with this topic and did a quick browse, but couldn't find my answer, so I was hoping you could tell me quickly, what's the /s switch exactly?

    And secondly, is it a must to have the update to able to use v1.7?

    Thx
     
  18. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    The /s switch is a feature I added to RemoveWAT for silent installs, and yes updating is reccomended.
     
  19. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    well I am thankful ;)
     
  20. MrXSpekta

    MrXSpekta MDL Junior Member

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    Aaah ok, makes sense. Thx!

    Guess I need to slipstream that patch into the ISO now.