[OUTDATED / UNSUPPORTED] RemoveWAT

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  1. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    RemoveWAT isn't a loader ;)
     
  2. Wonder Woman

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    how does one uninstall removewat 2.1?

    hi hazar,
    i would like to uninstall removewat 2.1 and was unable to do so because i couldn't find your program listed in the "programs and features" category in the "control panel". i tried to use your program itself to remove "removewat" and was unsuccessful.
     
  3. arawa

    arawa MDL Novice

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    same with wonder women,,,, what to do man.......
    please Hazar do somethings. thanks.
     
  4. redix 123

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    Uninstall

    Uninstall - jut run Removewat and click remove or uninstall or whatever...:)

    And if it doesn't work you will probably have to reinstall Win7:-(
     
  5. i2Paq

    i2Paq MDL Member

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    It is not something you install.

    You need to run the program and then choose "remove" or "uninstall".

    /spuit11
     
  6. Busykid508

    Busykid508 MDL Guru

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    I realize it is not a loader but it is a gimmick which can be recognized as a go around to the activation of windows and can, if microsoft desires, be detected through an update or service pack or security update and invalidate windows.
     
  7. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    Ok, but is it appropriate to force your opinions on people like that?

    You just invade the thread and tell people to use a BIOS mod, and compare this to messing around, and call it a gimmick? Forgive my hostility, I just think that's a bit off. Please research how it works before making overly opinionated comments.
     
  8. david toska

    david toska MDL Member

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    Go on Hazar, all your work is fantactic:D
     
  9. jebac

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    I agree, your work is fantastic Hazar and thank you for it.
     
  10. Michel

    Michel MDL Expert

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    Every software mod is a risk microsoft can detect them and put them on the blacklist.
     
  11. HotCarl

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    #1091 HotCarl, Jan 3, 2010
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    ROFL....a BIOS modded computer could be marked not genuine just like a computer using a loader or any other activation circumvention mechanism... It wouldnt be as easy to mark a BIOS modded system as not genuine (like it would be to mark a loader system an non-genuine) but it is definitely possible.

    Telling people to change from 1 means of activation to another to be "safe" is silly. The only way to be truly safe is to buy Windows 7...lol. ...and even then you can still get deactivated (if you change your hardware enough) but at least you can call MS up and sort the situation out... ;)

    If MS were to start marking BIOS modded computers as not genuine then it would be a pain in the ass to have a BIOS modded system...as then you would have to re-flash your computer (hoping you dont get a bad flash) in the hopes that the re-flashed BIOS would come up as genuine this time...

    I dont see any problems with people using loaders or remove wat, besides the fact that not everyone can mod their BIOS, it is just like MS and their XboX360 console (where they just recently banned over a million users for modding their systems)...MS will wait until they can best take advantage of the situation in order to do something about it. Maybe they don't view BIOS mods as a threat to profits yet, but you can bet when they do something will be done about it.

    ...and if MS "desires" (as you say in your quote above) they can do almost anything they want with their intellectual property when it comes to protecting their asset from theft and counterfeiting...which includes comparing the motherboard that your BIOS mod is running on to a list of known good (or bad, but good would be a shorter list) to see if it could even have come with slic 2.1. And if you think that would be time consuming or cost too much...how much do you think ownership of Windows is worth? 50 million? 100 million? a billion? 10 billion? lol...Windows is worth an obscene amount of money...and MS is one of the wealthiest companies on the planet... :p

    The thought that a BIOS mod is 100% undetectable is a fallacy, all you need to do is look at the motherboard. I mean, you could even tell simply from the BIOS revision date half of the time. Disable all systems with SLIC 2.1 and a BIOS revision date of 2008 or earlier and you will probably mark at least half of all BIOS mod users right out of the gate as non-genuine (and that is a conservative estimate, it would probably be more than half)...lol :p
     
  12. FreeStyler

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    #1092 FreeStyler, Jan 3, 2010
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    MS may desire that, i don't think it will happen though as the OEM's are much more powerfull then you seem to realize... why do you think OA 2.0 activation is introduced? to please MS or the OEM? :p

    We(*) have been able to insert a SLIC table inside a bios without it...don't you think we are able to change the BIOS revision and/or date? ;)
    * the real bios modders, not the ones who simply utilizing tools like andyp's presented here
     
  13. HotCarl

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    #1093 HotCarl, Jan 3, 2010
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    Then you should change the revision date as well...lol. You are just being argumentative...my point is valid. (IMHO though, you really should change the revision date...that is what sticks out like a sore thumb every time I see a BIOS modded system. I look at the revision date and it is from 2005, or 2007, or something like that and lol...every time damn near... It sticks out like a hard-on in church and if I were to make a program to detect BIOS mods, you can bet there would be something in there to check the revision date)

    As I said, I only gave brief examples... This topic has been beat to death elsewhere in another thread, so I am not going to argue about it here and spam hazar's thread.
     
  14. FreeStyler

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    #1094 FreeStyler, Jan 3, 2010
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    You are the one who started with arguments based on speculations, and yes you are right, no need to pollute this topic with it any further

    On a side note, i have nothing against this tool, i just read arguments and noted nothing in them is proven, it are all speculations and it will stay this way until proven otherwise.

    btw, you seem to be a big fan of the edit button, keep on editing! ;)
     
  15. HotCarl

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    #1095 HotCarl, Jan 3, 2010
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    I like to edit rather than posing a new comment, but oh well...

    There is no speculation. It is fact. Go read up on things and come back.
    If you think a BIOS mod is 100% undetectable then you are wrong and need to go educate yourself. ;)

    I like Hazar's RemoveWAT because if gives users another option... The more options the better, as they will probably evenually get weeded out by MS at some point...



    EDIT: So I am not the only one who likes editing...rofl. This is silly and like arguing with a child I am done. Good day sir. ;) Sorry for spamming your thread Hazar... :p


    EDIT2:
    Well, you argued with me about what I said...and what I said is that BIOS mods are not 100% undetectable...therefore you are implying by your comments that I am wrong in my comments...unless you are arguing with me for no reason... This is a waste of time. Later. :p
     
  16. FreeStyler

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    #1096 FreeStyler, Jan 3, 2010
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    Were did I say I think a bios mod is 100% undetectable? :p :confused:

    [Edit1]
    Dude get real... i am not the one replacing complete sentences (i just added stuff, as everytime i wen't back to your post it was changed again, who's the childish one then?)

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    No, i argued with you about 2 of the arguments you presented, which in my opinion are argumentative as nothing is proven and it is all based on speculation
     
  17. BOX-

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    I have debated the issue with the BIOS mods being the best solution. (Assuming that you have successfully modded the BIOS.) It would be so simple to deactivate the BIOS mods via an update from MS that compares your motherboard with the known OEM motherboards. If A=A, then genuine.

    RemoveWAT appears to be easy picking for MS because it is a low hanging fruit. SFC /scannow will kill it. This is a simple script that MS can include in its update. It does this now with MRT.

    Then why has MS not done so? It is all in the timing.:) I am guessing that MS will not take action until after the Release Candidate expires. This would eliminate people from flocking back to the RC, XP, Vista??, or Apple. This is what I call a bad business decision. To go from a revenue source (Win7) to no revenue.
     
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  18. Hazar

    Hazar MDL Guru

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    afaik, SFC does not kill acl modifications.
     
  19. HotCarl

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    Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! lol :p ;)

    That is basically the exact same reasoning I gave in the other thread... And that is very valid reasoning.

    Like I said, MS will wait until the time when it best suits them to handle the BIOS mod situation. They will play their hand very strategically... ;)
     
  20. BOX-

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    You are correct. However, SFC will undo enough changes from the RWAT that causes the users to have to reapply the patch again. Or you could just eliminate the SFC all together.

    But for now, RemoveWAT is an alternative for those who need it.

    BTW, to restore the rearm count back to 4 so you can rearm Windows 7 again and again was first done by Napalum. It took me longer because I didn't know how to bypass the security.
     
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