Pentium 4 524 (Prescott) + SiS 300 and Windows 10...can it be done ?

Discussion in 'PC Hardware' started by itsmemario1, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. Tiger-1

    Tiger-1 MDL Guru

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    haha dude is simple the Kernel of Wndows 10 is same for all versions, good luck you need search more... good luck
     
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  2. itsmemario1

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    Well, I have a runnning Windows 10 system on this Pentium now. Thats all I asked for. =)

    But my search will go on, about the "why does it work with Enterprise, but not with Home/Pro"...and Ill post here again. :)
     
  3. Enthousiast

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    What build is your home/pro...?
     
  4. itsmemario1

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    #24 itsmemario1, Dec 24, 2019
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    Actually, I tried all Home and Pro builds.

    From Version 1507 (Build 10240) to Version 1909 (Build 18363).
    Always the same crash.

    This Enterprise LTSC 2019 is Version 1809 (Build 17763.1)
     
  5. Enthousiast

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    Stop calling it enterprise, it's Enterprise 2019 LTCS, not the normal enterprise.

    The difference between normal non LTSC SKUs and LTSC is:
    - No cortana
    - No UWP apps
    - No Edge
    - 5+5 year servicing
    - No bi-annual feature updates

    Afaik, there is no difference in drivers or hardware support between 17763.xxx non LTSC and LTSC.
     
  6. itsmemario1

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    Im aware there are things missing from the "Enterprise LTSC 2019" but I also dont think it is connected to the "crash".

    I might want to have another try, installing the "normal" Enterprise (different builds) and see what happens.
     
  7. kaljukass

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    You're still infinitely consistent.
    You can try as much as you want or for as long as you want, but even if you manage to install something, you will never can use it.
    It just doesn't work on this 2004 level computer.
     
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  8. itsmemario1

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    @kaljukass
    But you read that I managed to install and work with Windows 10 on this 2004 PC now and that it no longer says "something went wrong" ?
    (Yea, there are better and more important things to do this world, but thats not what this thread is about)

    If someone would have stopped doing what he is doing,
    just because everytime someone else was confident that "It doesnt work",
    we would not have all of these old components working in Windows 10 in todays world.
    From intel chipsets to wifi...ancient onboard graphics...and so on.

    I wouldnt want to call those people "stupid but consistent", beeing the worst thing in world,
    just because they managed to debunk someones "It doesnt work". ;)

    I made some poor people very happy, beeing able to use Windows 10 (as wrong as that sounds) on their old computers...also thanks to those internet "enthusiasts". ;)

    Curiosity, retrolove and helping others. I love my hobby.

    p.s.
    I never would have thought that an old Pentium would lead to philosophical discussions on a tech forum. ;)

    p.s. p.s.
    I agree though, that chances are beyond slim, someone will ever start working on integrating/patching this dirty SiS330 device, making it "Windows 10 ready".
    So lets have a look for an old GeForce, thats NOT meant for Windows 10, but will work like a charme in Windows 10. ;)
     
  9. itsmemario1

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    #29 itsmemario1, Dec 25, 2019
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    I now used the registry trick (change EditionID) and changed it to "Pro", then used a Win10 x32 (1809) DVD to "upgrade" the current Enteprise LTSC 2019 to a "simple" Windows 10 Pro.

    Now even Windows 10 Pro runs on this old Pentium, which wouldnt even install completely before. =)


    For 32 bit do :
    1. Open Registry Editor(WIN + R, type regedit, hit Enter)

    2. Browse to key HKEY_Local Machine > Software > Microsoft > Windows NT > CurrentVersion
    3. Change EditionID to Home (double click EditionID, change value, click OK). In your case it should at the moment show Pro
    4. Change ProductName to Windows 10 Home. In your case it should at the moment show Windows 10 Professional
    For 64 bit do :
    1. Browse to key HKEY_Local Machine > Software > Wow6432Node > Microsoft > Windows NT > CurrentVersion, change the same two values as in steps 3 and 4 above
    2. Close the Registry Editor
    3. Insert the Windows 10 Homeinstallation media, do an in-place upgrade by launching the setup from desktop (not booting with Windows 10 Home install media)
    4. When asked, enter your validWindows 10 Home product key and select what to keep(settings, personal files and apps, only personal files or nothing)

    5. Windows 10 Home in-place upgrade will be done now.




    p.s.
    Updating to 1909, finally made Windows show the "Ran into a problem" message. So I guess, 1809 is the maximum on this old P4 for now. So, after "reverting changes", everything worked fine again.
     
  10. WindowsGeek

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    Good luck u must have a lot time in your hands and agree even if u install it will never run correctly that old pc wasn't design to run win10.
     
  11. Tiger-1

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    good work buddy, I've done a lot of installations on old platforms myself but all using Intel chipset and never had the slightest problem :)
     
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