There are so many different fronts to this battle. Some will be done here, by people with tech savvy; others will be done by lawyers and privacy advocates, attacking the fundamental problem at the political level. I started this thread here for three reasons: 1 ) I wanted to prove to the World that we could get together and discuss this issue in a sensible and civilized manner. In the past, it has turned into a free-for-all. 2 ) Because technology people have a great control over the purchasing recommendations of corporations and people as well. Hit them in the pockets. 3 ) Non-technical people will see this thread and take an interest to research the issue further. (It does show up in google if you do it right, but, if you're not logged in, certain posts are redacted) There's enough information to see the issues. That alone will protect countless non-technical users. They will realize that, if you don't know what you're doing, using the OS can be dangerous. From tiny acorns doth mighty oaks grow.
People need to be aware of something first, to react to it. I agree. The reactions are what win or lose. React one way, die in a fire. React another way, and live in privacy bliss or at least privacy bliss that people can live with. MS in the end had to make the changes global, we can kill it at its front, MS can kill it at the root. Go gettem
Yes word of mouth, consumer voice and review employing social media at least for now its the friends and family sadly with no much control windows 10 versions thanks to Boops highlighting this figures in this link http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/63733-PLEASE-READ-Microsoft-and-Privacy?p=1116638&viewfull=1#post1116638 in his earlier post
hm. business.. imo ms missed that boat eons ago.. and they know it.. businesses used to use xp; paying through the nose for licences for every pc in their network. xp ran expensive software that they needed to run their business with. then came vista etc.. and most of that software never got updated in time, of course you pay for the updated software and then again for new os licences. as long as it works, you stick with xp... lots of them still do..
MS needs to, if they quickly reacted to update KB3074681 network related issues in windows 10 then awareness is the way forward I believe a few enlightened who have queried this privacy in the past made MS to bolden the small print in windows 10 which should catch users eyes to broaden the debate and awareness would make an impact. Home users need legible options to have firm control what privacy related info goes to MS domain since windows is a tool use by many.
I'll start looking into a script to block telemetry among other things for Windows 10. I'm starting to get more free time to be able to actively participate in the next few days We do need to consolidate because I have a list of items that need to be checked off to have a full block in place.
How about sharing that list in the REPO, so all can check, i mean in case you might have no time to do .
I appriciate all you are doin S1ave and the rest of you. Putting it all out in a thread makes perfect sense. Nobody gets to have a trophy just to themselves, everyone gets to share in the winning combos. btw.. I think we should start at the kernel and work forward from there.
George Orwell already said... "We must remember three things: War is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength." ...and to implement, Big Brother needs to watch you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Civil_Rights_Framework_for_the_Internet
Go grab a tin foil hat please. These ideas are not a new thing and have been evolving for some time to the state we are at right now. @s1ave77: I will start doing this in the next day or so. I wrapped my summer job today. I need to go find beer.
Another user-friendly guide how set optimally privacy settings: http://www.windowscentral.com/all-you-need-know-privacy-windows-10 btw: I recommending combined with disable telemetry services http://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/63874-REPO-Windows-10-TELEMETRY-REPOSITORY
I have to suggest that everyone that is concerned about their privacy & Windows 10 to send a email to the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) and express your concern to them. The email that I have been using is [email protected]. I have emailed them before about other things and they have always returned my email. I have not yet gotten a reply from them about Windows 10 but I am sure that they are busy looking into it and they are probably tired of hearing about it. But that is not an excuse to not email them. The more people that complain or show that they are concerned the more impact it will have. Just remember to be polite!
A lot of surprises still to come and Windows 10 will be the center of attention. I think M$ already lost: Spoiler http://fr.slideshare.net/endrazine/blackhat2015-smb-sharing-more-than-just-your-files-whitepaper Credits: Jonathan Brossard (French Kiss) @ Black Hat USA 2015 Twitter Profile:
everyone who has doubts should just reject windows wiretapper (10) for safety consumer protection in europe is already warning about it's behaviour, however MS appears to feel very safe, as they spent a lot in lobbyism here ... http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-tech-firms-increase-eu-lobbying-efforts-1430307641 I'm back on windows 7
To (probably) no one's surprise arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft Good comment from there: I may just roll back to 7 and kill the above updates and get it over with. I know "nothing's perfect" but having to make the sorts of sacrifices for this OS is just not something I'm comfortable with doing right now. I think I may do just this and wait another 6+ months until either a) they remove this garbage or b) someone somewhere comes up with a better and actual tested working surefire way to remove this nonsense. I'm not really OK with Google snooping like they do, but in exchange they give me services that I can use and just deal with it. Having my entire OS being snooped even despite pushing all these cutesy buttons and doing all the setup prep that I have to do (after install) and now finding out that it is basically a glorified placebo....nah, I'm not ok with this, not one bit.
That statement is false and misleading. Whether it is intentionally false and misleading, or due to ignorance, I don't know. Free software exists. Free OSs exist.
So, You've read through all 20 pages of this thread, and that's all you've managed to glean? Keep reading. You missed something. :MJ
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