[PLEASE READ] Microsoft and Privacy

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  1. MrMagic

    MrMagic MDL Guru

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    All I want is a DX12 non spyware OS, not bothered about any other features at all, as long as I can use Firefox and a few other programs (Not apps), and DX12 works, I'd be a happy guy
     
  2. endbase

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    Same here !!
     
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  3. Michaela Joy

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    @endbase, et.al.: I understand that you wish to protect yourself and I respect that. But I started this thread with the thought of protecting -everyone-. Not just myself.

    I respect your knowledge and expertise, but as humans, we forget that there are those who do not know anywhere near what We know. They could be friends, loved ones, or strangers. At some point, they will come to us and ask us for help, guidance, and protection. I -MUST- help them. It's an intrinsic part of who and what I am. I understand that you and others may not feel that way. I am not compelling you or anyone else to help others. That's a personal choice that you make.

    And I meant you no offense; I'm simply pointing out that some solutions are not viable for the public at large.

    The problems with Windows 10 are almost entirely caused by greed, and the insatiable desire to get something for free. People need to realize this, and they need to curb their appetites and think about what they ingest.
     
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  4. murphy78

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    Well, supposedly they changed some memory management in the new insider build, but I don't think anyone has tested it to see if it's faster or just more efficient.
     
  5. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    @MrMagic: I think that We all want this. And what you ask for is a fair request.
     
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    You will find it from link here I'm using JDownloader 2 to get the files I want from link.
     
  7. endbase

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    The problems with Windows 10 are almost entirely caused by greed, and the insatiable desire to get something for free. People need to realize this, and they need to curb their appetites and think about what they ingest

    Is it not that the greed is from MS itself not realy generaly the people ! I myself I would pay for any good OS and did that many times in the past off course For me It is not about the greed but more about what is right ;)
     
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  8. MrMagic

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    Thanks, that baidu link just opens a blank page for me though, already expired?
     
  9. MrMagic

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    I survived from DOS to 8.1 without new memory management, I`m sure I`ll survive without it in 10 :)

    12GB RAM sounds fine to me to cover any non managed memory needs
     
  10. Michaela Joy

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    @endbase: No. Microsoft is a publicly held corporation. They are expected to operate based on a profit based model. if they did not, their investors would scream bloody murder and the board of directors would impeach the current CEO.

    Okay...that sword cuts both ways. As a corporation, Microsoft realized enormous loses with Windows 7 alone because of the Daz loader. (No offense, Daz. :) )

    If you created a commercial software product, and you realized those kinds of loses, you would be screaming bloody murder and be looking for revenge and retribution. You'd also do everything in your power to find those responsible and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. So, as a concerted effort, they are trying to do everything that they can to protect themselves. Which includes working with the Government and law enforcement to lock down software piracy issues.

    Their attempts were ludicrous; usurping privacy for the sake of profits. And, in many cases, our respective Governments violated Constitutional law for the sake of corporate profits and preservation of our respective economies. or is it that they twisted the law to go after a criminal element who has eluded capture for decades.

    It all depends on how you look at it. :)

    For Me, all I care about is that the respective agencies / corporations operate within the bounds of the law. If they overstep these bounds, they should be punished. In the case of a company selling (or giving away) a product,
    punishing them means not using their latest products.

    I don't use them. And I won't use them. I will recommend that -Everyone- stays away from Windows 10 until these issues are fully resolved.

    To Me, that's the safest course of action. For now.
     
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  11. eko_p

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    Until now I can find any prove about all this privacy concern but I find an article about privacy concern on the verge titled 'Windows, Privacy, and You' ... it's a nice reading material to clarify about all this privacy concern.
    since I can't provide you with link I'm just paste the last part of that article


    7. Why did Microsoft change all this with Windows 10?

    They didn't! Search suggestions and page prediction are features that have existed long before Windows 10, and actually showed up first in browsers like Google Chrome (in the case of search suggestions) before making their way to most browsers you see today. Windows 8.1 also brought the integration of Bing to the system along with location-relevant results, and provided the easy ability to opt out in settings. Other things such as the Customer Experience Improvement Program have existed since at least Windows 7, and the advertising ID has been seen in similar forms on other OSes. In all, only a handful of these new features, and the privacy concerns they bring, are actually in fact new. Most people have just been either unaware or just did not care of their existence in past operating systems and software.

    Microsoft is doing nothing out of the ordinary, and despite the daunting appearance of the Privacy settings, it's rather easy to control your privacy. Much of the privacy settings are either intended for third-party apps in the store, and the intent is to give you, the consumer, finer control of what your apps can do then you've ever been given in the past. If anything, Windows 10 puts you more in control then ever before.
     
  12. Michaela Joy

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    @eko_p: Please try to post the link. replace http with hxxp and it should work fine. I will try to fix and resolve the link.

    Until then, it would be unfair to ask anyone to respond without the entire contents of the link.

    I await your reply.

    :MJ
     
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  13. eko_p

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    I can't add link yet but here's the last part of the link /2015/8/23/9191989/windows-privacy-and-you
    Add the domain at the front
     
  14. Michaela Joy

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    Yes that's the article I'm talking about
     
  16. Michaela Joy

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    @Santers: So, why do you make your first post here? Do you feel that your opinions are so important that you feel the need to come to this forum and insult -every- person who has taken the time to discuss this matter in as sensible a fashion as possible?

    Have you examined any of the evidence presented here? Have you read the MS privacy agreement? Have you even read My first post?

    What is your agenda here?

    I await your apply.

    :MJ
     
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  17. Michaela Joy

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    That statement cuts both ways. If you read your own post, it seems like you wish to deprive us the right to speak about one of the worlds' hottest issues on the web.

    So, I ask you again: If you don't care, then why are you posting in this thread?


    And this means...what? What does that mean to You? In the spirit of free speech I invite you to share your thoughts.

    But remember: Freedom of Speech cuts both ways.

    If that's your opinion, that's fine by Me. If you don't care, then why are You are even posting in this thread?

    So I ask You. What is your agenda here?

    I await your reply.

    :MJ
     
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  18. Michaela Joy

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    #438 Michaela Joy, Aug 27, 2015
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    @pirithous: It's possible, but I wouldn't make any accusations unless I was absolutely sure. Avatars are very easy to find. Just google them.

    I found My avatar on google. I chose it because it looks pretty. Who knows where it's been. :D

    To Me, it's important to let -everybody- speak their minds. Even if they appear to be here for the sole purpose of starting trouble.

    It makes us better people because We respond to them from a position of sensibility and calm.

    And, as ancestor(v) said: This issue is too important.
     
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  19. Michaela Joy

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    @Santers: You are welcome to post here at any time, as long as you don't insult others.

    That's all We ask.
     
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    #440 MysTikAL3, Aug 27, 2015
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    Can't seem to find this (obscure) article anywhere...although I'm sure it exists somewhere in cyberspace...:rolleyes:

    But really? How does this article 'clarify' Windows 10 privacy and security concerns at all, when 90% of your copy/paste is misleading at best.


    LOL...:roflmao: Are they kidding? This statement is completely false s**t...:horse:
    Good ole propaganda BS, probably copied verbatim from Microsoft's Windows 10 sales pitch...:laie:

    I suggest you do some more research... the facts of Windows 10 user privacy and security is lost and trampled on are overwhelming....besides further that 'opting out' of all this fluff stops little or none of the telemetry (and data mining) back to MS servers....so I would say this article, at least this paste portion, is downright deceitful garbage...:sneaky:

    This thread alone has an enormous amount of researched statements, articles, and facts, including many links to much more info..
    Check into it deeper and you'll be enlightened...:eek:
    Start here by reading the Windows 10 Service Agreement....

    This fact is certain, Windows 10 is designed (and by default is) to be a data mining machine that compromises and/or destroys every aspect of personal privacy and security that the PC consumer/user ever had, since the invention of the computer.
    :death: