[PLEASE READ] Microsoft and Privacy

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  1. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    Might I point out, Stallmans' solution is to modify Ubuntu (mind you Ubuntu using Unity) to work without the referrals. That has been done on Ubuntu Mate, Ubuntu Gnome, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu. Those are all official distributions of Ubuntu.
     
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  3. Zardoc

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    Microsoft, continues to make enemies:

    Microsoft, continues to make enemies:
    Microsoft is downloading large Windows 10 installation files to Windows 7 and 8.1 computers even if users didn't indicate they're interested in upgrade, gobbling up internet bandwidth and hard drive space.

    READ :tasty:
     
  4. nodnar

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    they are panicking..
    they are losing their customers.
    no way they can get a market share in phones.
    so they are putting gigabytes on our harddrives.
    and giving away their os. hoping to get a share
    and they try to collect data, but they are streets
    behind google and the rest.
     
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  5. Uky

    Uky MDL Novice

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    I wonder what Enterprise IT planners and CIO's think of this. Do they really understand and approve that the content in computers used in industrial environments that are filled with company intellectual properties gets sent to Remond? The content of emails? datafiles and drawings?

    :g:
     
  6. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    I don't understand how MS can continue to do this. Do they not see that they are irreparably damaging their reputation and undermining the trust of their user base? And how can their board of directors stand by and watch their executives commit product suicide?

    Perhaps there is an agenda here. Maybe MS is trying to push Linux as the new desktop OS, thereby extracting themselves from the desktop computer market. Then, they can focus on (or have already focused on) a 'nix based OS. Something like OS-X. Sure, they'd provide legacy support for their other desktop products. But maybe cell-phones and tablets is where they want to be.

    I wonder...
     
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  7. ausernamenoonehas

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    Microsoft is an empire who is acting like many empires that fell before it. Its called dictatorship. One last mad grab for control. Microsoft over the years have watched their competitors slowly but surely take away its citizens and the wealth with them. Throughout history many empires have risen to heights that would seem to last forever but never do.

    Imagine time travelling back to Rome and telling its citizens the invincible Roman empire will be no more. They'd laugh and mock. The same could be said for the Grecian empire before it, and sadly the U.S empire is looking very much like heading in the same direction.

    Its typical and predictable what Microsoft are doing. Its just human nature when the empire is crumbling and control seems like the only option left to hold it together. Other nations have risen and are offering a better way of life. They've smartly enticed a large chunk of the populace to come across and bring their wealth with them.

    The reaction of Microsoft has been typical. At first they tried to copy the other nations models. They lower taxes, we will too. They offer cheaper housing and more jobs, we will too. Free health care? We can do that ....

    When all else fails ...Control. Dictatorship.

    Welcome to the new Commiesoft where freedom and choice are no longer an option. Like many dictatorships in the past, it takes the populace way way too long before they realize the walls surrounding them are not for their protection, but to keep them locked in ...
     
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    #628 oldsh_t, Sep 16, 2015
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    This has been posted here also:
    http://forums.mydigitallife.net/thr...ling-to-Win-7-8-8-1-PC-s-without-user-consent!

    In the article M$ says the the file is approximately 3GB:
    Yea RIGHT!!!!
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    In the article they state:
    While Windows 10 doesn't install automatically....
    Yea RIGHT!!!!
    Check the dates and how many times it tried to install and failed. And this is only one of the screen shots my cousin sent me. Every time it would try to install when she tried to shut down the computer which would take at least an hour. "Preparing to configure Windows. Do not turn off your computer"
     

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  9. thorin0815

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    Maybe the download is 3GB before uncompressing.
     
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  10. .org

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    my crow soft

    your statement reminds me of a company which was an empire so to speak not so long ago by the name of nokia :rip:
     
  11. SOCRATE_MMXII

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    The bad news is: nothing lasts forever.The good news is: nothing lasts forever. :eek:
     
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  12. nodnar

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    when a bad sultan asked for a thing to his scientists that is always true. they said; `these things too will pass away`.. ;)
     
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  13. riahc3

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    Wow, this is what the fuss is all about?

    First, Microsoft states that it "COLLECTS" these things. Never, in that post, does it say it stores ANYTHING.
    On top of that, it is a blank statement. If you NEVER introduce your telephone number anywhere, there is NO way Microsoft can collect your phone number. Same as a bunch of other things there.
    Passwords? I can tell you right now that Microsoft does NOT collect your passwords. Microsoft doesnt even collect its own employees passwords. Any sysadmin will tell you the same thing.

    Basically, completely overblown.
     
  14. nodnar

    nodnar MDL Expert

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    the trouble is, that i have an ip-adress....:D
     
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  15. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    #635 R29k, Sep 25, 2015
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    CISA is a mass surveillance bill posing as a “cybersecurity” bill

    Apple, Microsoft, Adobe, Symantec, and a handful of other tech companies just began publicly lobbying Congress to pass Cyber Threat Information Sharing legislation, like CISA, a bill that would give corporations total legal immunity when they share private user data with the government and with each other. Many of these companies have previously claimed to fight for their users' privacy rights, but by supporting this type of legislation, they've made it clear that they've abandoned that position, and are willing to endanger their users' security and civil rights in exchange for government handouts and protection...

    Oppose it


    Yep more Republican poop

    COALITION LETTER FROM 55 CIVIL SOCIETY GROUPS, SECURITY EXPERTS, AND ACADEMICS OPPOSING CISA

    Busting the Biggest Myth of CISA—That the Program Is Voluntary
     
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  16. ausernamenoonehas

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    Not wanting to quote myself, but ...

    As R29K points out "Cybersecurity" bill ....

    Its always the same old tune being played. Everything they offer is sold as something for your protection, but the opposite is actually true. They changed so many laws, and brought in new laws under the guise of "terrorism" to protect you from it, when all it really did was give the government and corporations legal powers to tighten their control over its citizenry.

    And that's not even touching subject matter like the Trans-Pacific Partnership which is so absolutely vile, they won't even release the details of which for fear of the public backlash. Another "just trust us, its for your benefit" scam.

    Now its CISA, a mass surveillance bill posing as "Cybersecurity" to protect us from the next batch of bogeymen waiting in the shadows ...

    Problem - reaction - solution.
     
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  17. MysTikAL3

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    #637 MysTikAL3, Oct 1, 2015
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    Microsoft Class Action Lawsuit

    Your PC, Laptop, or Tablet may have downloaded Windows 10 or installed without your consent


    Breaking News; Microsoft Class Action Lawsuit


    Another fight for our rights as consumers, and the protection of our private property has just begun...join it!
    :rolleyes:
     
  18. Michaela Joy

    Michaela Joy MDL Crazy Lady

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    @MysTikAL3: And now, we've come full-circle. :thumbsup:

    I'd like to thank everyone who participated in these discussions, especially Yen and Ancestor(V) who nurtured this discussion and protected its' integrity.

    I would like to personally thank Ann Cavoukian for Her kind words and her hard work. It was Her reply to an email I sent to her that inspired Me to pursue this matter further, and it is people like Her who are an inspiration to people like Me.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Cavoukian

    GOD bless You Ms. Cavoukian. :hug2:
     
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  19. R29k

    R29k MDL GLaDOS

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    Time is running out on CISA

    Decide the Future


    Look at the list of moronic companies on this list supporting this nonsense !
    Facebook, Intel, HP, AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, T-mobile, Cisco, IBM :eek:
     
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    #640 MysTikAL3, Oct 25, 2015
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    Tech Giants Continue to Oppose CISA Bill

    Added: Friday, October 23rd, 2015
    22 of the world’s major tech firms, including Apple, Google, Twitter and Wikipedia, are firmly against the controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA).

    On the other hand, 12 firms back the legislation or have remained silent, including Comcast, HP, Cisco and Verizon. The bill is aimed at tightening Internet security and is being harshly criticized as infringing on civil liberties and privacy.


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    Few companies backing the bill have issued official statements in its favor, but many lobbied on its earlier version. Meanwhile, some of those companies, including Apple, Facebook and Google, now oppose it. For example, Apple issued a statement claiming that the company didn’t support “the current CISA proposal” and that security should not come at the expense of its customers’ privacy.

    The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act would allow private industry to share user data with the US government, which, in its turn, would be compelled to share it across “relevant agencies”, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the NSA. While its supporters have touted the law as entirely voluntary, other such “voluntary” programs turn out to mandate the kind of data reported and the frequency of the reports.

    It should be noted that Microsoft, for example, is still in the midst of its legal battle with the Department of Justice over its demands for access to emails stored on a server in Ireland, and the company received official support, even from its rivals, who all argue that the case would have broad implications for the ability of the US companies to conduct business internationally.

    Now Google, Facebook, Yahoo and other tech giants insist that while they support the idea of cyber security, the CISA’s prescribed mechanism for sharing of the threat data fails to protect users’ privacy or limit the permissible uses of data shared with the government.


    Posted by: SaM

    Date: Friday, October 23rd, 2015

    http://extratorrent.cc/article/4592/tech giants continue to oppose cisa bill.html

    Supporters of CISA bill still include;
    Adobe,
    Altium,
    Autodesk,
    CA Technologies,
    Comcast,
    DataStax,
    Facebook,
    IBM,
    Intel,
    Microsoft,
    Minitab,
    Oracle,
    Siemens,
    Symantec,
    T-Mobile,
    Verizon,
    along with the president and CEO of BSA


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